Grandparents in Leicester & Halifax .....

[Jockbird]

Thanks for that Meg, I stand corrected....as the man in orthapedic shoes once said!

I was basing my info when I looked into getting a death certificate from Kensington & Chelsea, however, I now realise that, as it was a fairly recent event, they were able to take the info from the current register. I note that anything from the vault costs £7.00 which is the same as the GRO. I just thought that all local offices were amazingly generous!

Once again 3 cheers to SP cos I know I for one have put at lot of my English searches on hold due to the cost.....plus I'm having too much of a good time on SP...just think how many lookups we can get for just one certificate down here.

BTW Kaye, there are ta couple of marriages on FreeBMD for a David Burrows where he marries a Mary, followed by a middle name mentioned in the census info we have. There is one in 1863 in Foleshill (Warwickshire) where a Mary Ann Bailey is on the list of those married....based on the name given by Maggie in the 1891 census.

However, the 1881 Census on Ancestry shows David (aged 38, an elastic web weaver, of Coventry, Warwickshire) married to a Mary Jane? Is this a mistranscription? The other marriage I refer to on FreeBMD shows a Leicester marriage in 1880 between a David Burrows and there is a Mary Jane Hill on that page. On the free 1881 census on Ancestry you will see that David and Mary have a boarder, Frank Hill........

I'm sorry Kaye, I've probably raised more questions than answers here but I just wonder if there was another marriage and that Florence & Kate perhaps didn't share the same mother? Perhaps the Foleshill marriage is a red herring, perhas they both are, so I'd get Florence's & Kate's BCs unless you manage to ascertain a definite name.

Oh gosh, this was meant to be helpful ........hope it does...help that is!

I'm going to go away & sit on my hands so I can't cause anymore mischief & mayhem.......or perhaps I should just go & do some housework!

Donna
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[trish1]

Re the last comments by Donna

Looking at the image, the name is definitely Mary Jane in 1881

In 1871, there is a David Burrows, Boarder, Widower, aged 28 Elastic web weaver born Coventry, living with a family named Tarry in Leicester ref RG10/3277 78/34

If he was a widower in 1871 & perhaps didn't marry Mary Jane until 1880, then Florence and Arthur were born before the marriage or David married again c. 1872/73 - Just noticed the additional children in 1891 - I wonder where they are in 1881?

In 1861, he is also a lodger in Leicester with the Rogers family, unmarried age 18 a silk weaver born Coventry ref RG9/ 2290 59/15

Trish

[Kaye Dunsmore]

Thanks all for lots af info and things to follow up -- that's what makes it all so interesting. Don't know if maybe David was unlucky enough to lose 3 wives or not, but Mary Jane died in 1884 -- so if he did marry a Mary Ann around 1872 ( my next search) and was a widower in 1871, he was either unlucky with his wives, careless with them or -- HORROR- a serial killer with a penchant for ladies called Mary :
Thanks again
Kaye

[Jockbird]

And who's the next Mary he's got for the 1891 census?????

If we've got the right chap it means wife no 1 died before 1871, someone else came along and had Florence, Hannah & Arthur and was gone by 1880 when he married Mary Jane, then poor Mary Jane dies in 1884 and he's got a Mary Ann by 1891......my god I'm running out of fingers here.

Good luck with the unravelling Kaye.

Keep us posted with your search.

Donna
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[Kaye Dunsmore]

Thanks for your continued interest, Donna. The other thing that occurred to me was that, since on the 1881 cencus Hannah ( who'd be 9 then) and John ( 5 then) don't appear, were they children of his next wife, Mary Ann, and were adopted by him, so appear with her on the 1891 cencus??
The plot thickens
Or maybe they were just staying at a relatives on the night the 1881 cencus was done! Who knows.


Kaye

[trish1]

Hello Kaye

I tried to make a little more sense of David, without alot of joy. There is, I think, a more likely marriage in Leicester in 1863 - from 1861 to 1901 He seems to be in Leicester.
Marriage Jun 1863 David Burrows Leicester 7a 286 Possible wife Hannah Allen (FreeBDM only has these 2 on the page)
There are 2 Hannah Burrows died in Leicester Dec 1869 One aged 25, one 27 refs 7a 97 7a 147
There was a child called Annie Elizabeth born/died Sep Qtr 1869

I cannot find a marriage abt 1873 to cover the births of the two children shown in 1881 - nor can I find Hannah & John mentioned in 1891 in the 1881 census.

By 1901, David is again a boarder & the census says he is Single!

Trish

[Kaye Dunsmore]

I was told to try Genes Reunited and posted there for info on David and Kate Burrows -- turns out David was one of 7 brothers and 1 sister -- and two of his brothers( possibly twins as they were born the same year and have similar names) also married Marys.
The lady who contacted me turns out to be a relative -- her Gt Gt Gt Grandfather is my Gt Gt grandfather.
Really enjoying building a family tree and thought I'd keep up to date any of you who are interested in my efforts.
Thanks again for all your help

Kaye

[Jockbird]

That's great news.

Good luck with the rest of the hunting and I hope the info gives you enough to go back further.

Best wishes
Donna
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