Edwin or Edward

[emanday]

I've got a bit of a conundrum

One of my son-in-law's rellies sometimes, in various censuses, is shown as Edwin (his birth name), others as Edward. Same wife's name and same birthplaces and ages +/- 1 year for both of them. At the time they got married he was calling himself Edwin.

Oh, and yes, they have the same kids too!

Just managed to find his death. I knew where and roughly what the year was +/- 1 year.

Here's the biggy conundrum - There is an Edward AND an Edwin, both in the same year, same quarter and BOTH showing the same volume and page numbers.

Anyone got any ideas?

Could his death have been registered by two different people, each knowing him by one or the other name?

[LesleyB]

Hi Mary
This is not a very qualified reply as my knowledge of English proceedures is not great, but could it be that he was registered once each under both names and on the same page because he was known by both names?

If it is "same volume and page numbers" it has surely got to be the same guy.
...unless he had a twin and they regularly swapped identities, but I'm off in the realms of silliness now.....

Best wishes
Lesley

[emanday]

...unless he had a twin and they regularly swapped identities, but I'm off in the realms of silliness now.....

Believe me, that is mild compared to some of my theories

I'm tempted to order the DC - but which one? (ain't payin for both) Unless, of course, it is entered all on one DC but indexed as two names.

Aw - some folk can be Sooooo awkward.

[Tracey]

Here's the biggy conundrum - There is an Edward AND an Edwin, both in the same year, same quarter and BOTH showing the same volume and page numbers.

One of mine was registered twice under two sir names - one he was born with and the one he had used most of his adult life with both having the same Vol and Page number.
Chances are that its the same person

Added...............i was told that my birth was registered twice (but ive never looked) all because my name was spelt wrong

[emanday]

Thanks Lesley and Tracey. If it isn't the same person then it is probably the wildest coincidence I've ever seen.

I think I will bite the bullet and order the DC. My son-in-law and his father are just as mystified about this.

[LesleyB]

Hi Mary

I think I will bite the bullet and order the DC.

Ah, but which one??
I'm sure when you are sinding for the cert, if you asked nicely some kind soul would confirm if they are one and the same and what the difference is between the two entries.

Best wishes
Lesley

[Tracey]

Hi Mary

I think I will bite the bullet and order the DC.

Ah, but which one??
I'm sure when you are sinding for the cert, if you asked nicely some kind soul would confirm if they are one and the same and what the difference is between the two entries.

Best wishes
Lesley

Yes, this just reminded me that i called the relevant records office rather than order from GRO.

[Tracey]

Actually the above was for the death. I just checked the marriage

Marriage 1a 17* *** to *** 1a 17* March q 1946
Marriage *** to *** 1a 19* March Q 1946

One of the original entries has 6 or A written on end - all this is hand written on form, maybe this is significant if its the same person with two entries ?

So maybe not so obvious unless you know 100% its them / him

[Currie]

Here’s an interesting page (see also births and marriages)
http://home.clara.net/dixons/Certificates/deaths.htm

Name and Surname of the Deceased
This is the name by which they were known at the time of death. If, therefore, someone started life with a different name but by usage has come to be called something else you will not find any reference to the original name on older certificates.
and……..
These days a person is frequently registered in more than one name so that all previous names would be shown.

Whatever that means exactly,
Alan

[emanday]

Thanks for that Alan.

Does seem to explain it, doesn't it.

I'm wondering - if I ordered the one showing his correct name Edwin, is it likely that the DC might maybe also say something like "aka Edward" or am I clutching at straws ?