Can someone have a look please?

[crayspond]

Hi,

I am looking for a death of a James Beveridge but have failed to find him in Scotlandspeople. He was married to Catherine Duncan c 1851. I have no birth details for him but c 1831 in Dunfermline. Can anyone look on ancestry to see if they can see him in England. Catherine was a widow in 1881 aged 57 in Glasgow.

Many thanks,
Ailsa

[garibaldired]

There are a few deaths for James Beveridge on FreeBMD but this is the best fit I think:

Deaths Sep 1876

BEVERIDGE James 42 Gateshead 10a 451


Best wishes,
Meg

[crayspond]

Hi Meg,

I had a look on the FreeBMD - quite a few there. He was definitely on the 1861 census in Trafalgar St Calton Glasgow with the family then on 1871 he is not there but his wife is listed as married not widowed - by 1881 she is listed as widow so i can maybe assume that he died between 1871 and 1881. However as i said before i can't seem to find him.
I will have to keep looking - it could be him in Gateshead but it is hard to prove - thanks for helping.

Ailsa

[rjpaton]

Ailsa

When you say you can't seem to find him in Scotland, do you mean you have looked at each of the possibles from SP & ruled them all out? I did a quick search at SP for DOB between 1815 & 1835 for James B*v*r*g* & it gives 6 candidates:
1 1873 BEVERIDGE JAMES M 42 DUNFERMLINE LANDWARD /FIFE 424/02 0134 VIEW (5 CREDITS) ORDER
2 1873 BEVERIDGE JAMES M 39 FALKLAND /FIFE 428/00 0031 VIEW (5 CREDITS) ORDER
3 1875 BEVERIDGE JAMES M 53 ORWELL /KINROSS 463/00 0051 VIEW (5 CREDITS) ORDER
4 1877 BEVERIDGE JAMES M 42 STEVENSTON /AYR 615/00 0079 VIEW (5 CREDITS) ORDER
5 1879 BEVERIDGE JAMES M 45 BEATH /FIFE 410/00 0050 VIEW (5 CREDITS) ORDER
6 1879 BEVERIDGE JAMES M 54 CAMBUSNETHAN /LANARK 628/00 0166 VIEW (5 CREDITS) ORDER
Is it possible its one of these but perhaps the details were not correct from the informant & you didn't recognise him? The Dumferline & Lanark ones look most promising.

Robert

[crayspond]

Hi,

Thanks Robert for the help in looking for James Beveridge. I was naively always putting in the mother's surname or his wife's maiden name as on death certs it usually has one or other or both in some cases. That's why i could not find a death cert for him. I know what you mean about a witness giving the wrong information as it has happened before to me.
I'm not sure about the Lanark one as it was a fair bit away from Bridgeton and it would make him born c 1825 and he is 10 in 1841 so that is a good 6 years out (not impossible i know).
The Dunfermline James is a good fit age wise but i will have to see where Landward is in Fife. He would have had family still living there although his mother and father lived and died in Glasgow.
I feel sure he moved somewhere to find work or maybe went to sea - or abroad to see reatives i could have a look at the ship's records around that time.
Many thanks again,

Ailsa

[AndrewP]

... but i will have to see where Landward is in Fife.

Hi Ailsa,

The reference is to the landward part of Dunfermline registration district. Many districts containing a burgh were split into the burgh and landward sections for registration and censuses. Roughly speaking the burgh was the town part of the district, and the landward part was the remainder of the parish.

All the best,

AndrewP

[crayspond]

Hi,

Andrew thanks for the info on the meaning of landward - it will help in future searches i am sure.
I looked at the death 1873 BEVERIDGE JAMES M 42 DUNFERMLINE LANDWARD /FIFE 424/02 0134 VIEW (5 CREDITS) ORDER on SP but it is not him. So many Beveridges' in Fife !!

Thanks again,

Ailsa

[trish1]

There is a James Beveridge on a New York passenger list as follows
Arriving May 20 1869 from Glasgow Dorian James Beveridge, 37 Married Miner from Scotland intending to settle in America

I don't easily see him on the 1870 US Census - there is a James Beveridge from Scotland listed as age 34 on the census, a miner in Pennsylvania - closest I can find

Trish

[crayspond]

Hi,
Thanks Trish for looking for me - James's sister in law Jane Beveridge and family emigrated to Boston and the Connecticut area between 1882 and 1887 (his brother Thomas - Jane's husband sadly drowned at sea in 1883).
I had a lot of great help from SarahND on this site and we found loads of info on the US censuses. I have a niggling feeling that maybe someone in the family had gone out before them. If not James maybe another brother or sister . I am working my way through the family to eliminate the ones who i find death certs for in the UK.
1841 census 424 Ed 4 p? (Dunfermline)
New row.
George BEVERIDGE, 35, Linen weaver?, b Fife
Margaret BEVERIDGE, 35, ----------------b Fife
James BEVERIDGE, 10, Linen weaver?, b Fife
Margaret BEVERIDGE, 8, --------------b Fife
Euphemia BEVERIDGE, 6, -----------b Fife
George BEVERIDGE, 4, -----------b Fife
John BEVERIDGE, 2, ------------b Fife
David BEVERIDGE, 1, ---------b Fife
====
By 1851 two more children
Thomas BEVRIDGE, son, 10, scholar, b Dunfermline, FIF
Elizth. BEVRIDGE, daur, 8, scholar, b Dunfermline, FIF

Of the above James is the one i am looking for at the moment. The one on the Passenger list age 37 looks promising but as you say no sign of him on the census.
Thomas died at sea in 1883 and Elizabeth died in 1866 age 23 in Bridgeton. That is where i am up to at the moment.

Thanks for helping,

Ailsa