Johnson children lost in London

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Johnson children lost in London

Post by SarahND » Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:19 pm

Hi all,
Anyone feeling sharp-eyed today? I seem to have lost about 5 children in 1891 and can't find them anywhere :(

Luke Johnson and Eliza Harner/Harmer/Hamer had at least 12 children in Southwark, Surrey (Greater London) from 1878-1898. Here are the dates of their baptisms, that correspond pretty well to birth years:

Eliza 1878
Charlotte 1880
Luke 1882
James 1884
Martha 1884
William 1886
Robert 1888
Elizabeth 1890
Edward 1893
George 1894
Matthew 1896
Samuel 1898

In the 1881 census Luke and Eliza with daughters Eliza and Charlotte are living with Luke's parents, Luke Sr and Charlotte (Hinton) Johnson at 282 Tabard St in Newington, London.

In 1891 Luke and Eliza are still with Luke's parents at 288 Tabard St, Newington, but NONE OF THEIR CHILDREN ARE WITH THEM.

By 1901, although Luke's parents are still living, Luke and Eliza are in their own place finally, at 43 Etham St, Bermondsey, with children Eliza, Luke, William, Robert, Elizabeth, Edward, George, Matthew and Samuel.

I think James and Martha were twins and both died young, and Charlotte also died, but Eliza, Luke, William, Robert and Elizabeth should show up somewhere in 1891, as they are obviously still living in 1901. Where were they?

Not with the paternal grandparents, anyway, as I've found them.

Eliza's parentage is something of a mystery, so I won't swear they aren't with Eliza's mother somewhere, but if so they are hiding under some other name. Eliza's father was, according to her marriage record, named John and he was already deceased by the time of her marriage.

But surely all those little Johnsons must be somewhere about!? Where would you send your children, aged 0-13 in April? Census night was 5 April that year.

Can anyone see them?

Thanks for looking,
Sarah

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Re: Johnson children lost in London

Post by speleobat2 » Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:24 pm

Hi Sarah,

Boarding school maybe?

Can't see a one of them! Off to have a cup of caffiene and put the spareribs in the oven. Will look again later.

Carol :D
Looking for: Clerihew, Longmuir/Longmore, Chalmers, Milne, Barclay in Newhills,
Munro, Cadenhead, Raitt, Ririe/Reary

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Re: Johnson children lost in London

Post by trish1 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:43 am

Hi Sarah

I've looked also - given the ages of the youngest - school seems rather impossible - I would think the grandfather or the enumerator simply missed them off the list. Looking at the baptisms - Elizabeth baptised 1890 had her father's address as 288 Tabard as does Robert which seems to be the address of the parents in 1891.


Trish

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Re: Johnson children lost in London

Post by SarahND » Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:47 pm

Thanks for looking, Carol and Trish.
At least I know I'm not missing anything obvious. Surely those small children must have been still at home, particularly the younger ones. Maybe they misunderstood the enumerator and thought that only adults should be mentioned on the census form? In any case, I'm sure it won't worry my neighbour, whose family this is... just had me going crazy :lol:

All the best,
Sarah

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Re: Johnson children lost in London

Post by speleobat2 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:20 pm

Hi Sarah,

I'd have to agree with Trish that the children simply weren't recorded for some reason. The new search feature on Ancestry lets you search for groups of siblings or even other family by adding names and places to the original search. I did that with and without the surname and came up empty handed.

Had 7 inches of snow with drifting last night and most to the state is shut down. Guess I'll try to round up some more "cousins" in AU today!

Carol :D
Looking for: Clerihew, Longmuir/Longmore, Chalmers, Milne, Barclay in Newhills,
Munro, Cadenhead, Raitt, Ririe/Reary