mcphersons scotsforth lancs
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utrecht003
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mcphersons scotsforth lancs
some time in the next couple of weeks I hope to head south to search for possible family of my wife. her grandfather was john grant mcpherson from banffshire he married a lady fro scotland called mary mcnicol bruce 1868 she died in bolton le sands 1894 ,he later married a mary ann pritt (polly)1900. We know nothing about them except for childrens names is there someone perhaps could point me in the right direction ; cemetries or anything more direct .hopefully with thanks.
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SandySandilands
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Re: mcphersons scotsforth lancs
Hi
I think this is John and polly on the 1901 census:
Name: John G McPherson
Age: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A McPherson
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland
Civil parish: Lancaster
Ecclesiastical parish: Scotforth St Paul
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation: Gardener
Registration district: Lancaster
Sub-registration district: Lancaster
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 19
Piece: 3991
Folio: 53
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
John G McPherson 58
Mary A McPherson 38
Clara A McPherson 2 Months
James Sayle 55
& John and Mary on the 1891 Census:
Name: John G Macpherson
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Macpherson
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland
Civil parish: Scotforth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Scotforth
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation: Gardener
Registration district: Lancaster
Sub-registration district: Lancaster
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3468
Folio: 54
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
John G Macpherson 49
Mary Macpherson 47
Amiebelle B Macpherson 19
Alfred I McPherson 17
Beatrice McPherson 14
Douglas M McPherson 16
James A B McPherson 12
Mable C McPherson 6
John & Mary on the 1881 Census:
1881 England Census about John McPherson
Name: John McPherson
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary McPherson
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland
Civil parish: Bolton Le Sands
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: Village
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:
Employment status:
View image
Occupation: Storekeeper Ironworks
Registration district: Lancaster
Sub-registration district: Warton
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4270
Folio: 63
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
John McPherson 39
Mary McPherson 38
Mary J. McPherson 11
William E. McPherson 10
Annie B. McPherson 9
Alfred J. McPherson 7
Beatrice McPherson 4
James A. McPherson 2
William D. McLeod 6
This could be them on the 1871. Age & names of the two eldest children appear to fit and two of the servants are named Brue which was his wife's maiden name:
Name: John McPherson
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Mary McPherson
Gender: Male
Where born: Aberlour, Banffshire
Registration Number: 275/1
Registration district: Brechin Burgh
Civil parish: Brechin Burgh
County: Angus
Address: 34 Market St
Occupation: Innkeeper
ED: 6
Household schedule number: 33
Line: 14
Roll: CSSCT1871_48
Household Members:
Name Age
John McPherson 30
Mary McPherson 28
Mary Jane McPherson 1
William G McPherson 9 MO
Jane Bruce 17
Isabella Bruce 15
However, from the IGI I see John and Mary married in 1868 at Brechin Angus. I took a look at their marriage certificate on Scotland's People:
John McPherson, Burgh Police Officer - Batchelor - Age 28 - 13 Clerk Street, Brechin,
son of William McPherson, House Proprietor and Christina McPherson, maiden name Grant
Mary Nicol Bruce - Spinster - Age 25 - 34 Market Street, Brechin,
dau of John Bruce, Innkeeper and Jane (Carson?) Bruce, maiden name McNicol
Witnesses: William Buick and Ann Bruce
Looks like I was right with the 1871 Census
I'll take a look for them on the 1861 census later.
Sandy
I think this is John and polly on the 1901 census:
Name: John G McPherson
Age: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A McPherson
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland
Civil parish: Lancaster
Ecclesiastical parish: Scotforth St Paul
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation: Gardener
Registration district: Lancaster
Sub-registration district: Lancaster
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 19
Piece: 3991
Folio: 53
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
John G McPherson 58
Mary A McPherson 38
Clara A McPherson 2 Months
James Sayle 55
& John and Mary on the 1891 Census:
Name: John G Macpherson
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Macpherson
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland
Civil parish: Scotforth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Scotforth
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation: Gardener
Registration district: Lancaster
Sub-registration district: Lancaster
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3468
Folio: 54
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
John G Macpherson 49
Mary Macpherson 47
Amiebelle B Macpherson 19
Alfred I McPherson 17
Beatrice McPherson 14
Douglas M McPherson 16
James A B McPherson 12
Mable C McPherson 6
John & Mary on the 1881 Census:
1881 England Census about John McPherson
Name: John McPherson
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary McPherson
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland
Civil parish: Bolton Le Sands
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: Village
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:
Employment status:
View image
Occupation: Storekeeper Ironworks
Registration district: Lancaster
Sub-registration district: Warton
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4270
Folio: 63
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
John McPherson 39
Mary McPherson 38
Mary J. McPherson 11
William E. McPherson 10
Annie B. McPherson 9
Alfred J. McPherson 7
Beatrice McPherson 4
James A. McPherson 2
William D. McLeod 6
This could be them on the 1871. Age & names of the two eldest children appear to fit and two of the servants are named Brue which was his wife's maiden name:
Name: John McPherson
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Mary McPherson
Gender: Male
Where born: Aberlour, Banffshire
Registration Number: 275/1
Registration district: Brechin Burgh
Civil parish: Brechin Burgh
County: Angus
Address: 34 Market St
Occupation: Innkeeper
ED: 6
Household schedule number: 33
Line: 14
Roll: CSSCT1871_48
Household Members:
Name Age
John McPherson 30
Mary McPherson 28
Mary Jane McPherson 1
William G McPherson 9 MO
Jane Bruce 17
Isabella Bruce 15
However, from the IGI I see John and Mary married in 1868 at Brechin Angus. I took a look at their marriage certificate on Scotland's People:
John McPherson, Burgh Police Officer - Batchelor - Age 28 - 13 Clerk Street, Brechin,
son of William McPherson, House Proprietor and Christina McPherson, maiden name Grant
Mary Nicol Bruce - Spinster - Age 25 - 34 Market Street, Brechin,
dau of John Bruce, Innkeeper and Jane (Carson?) Bruce, maiden name McNicol
Witnesses: William Buick and Ann Bruce
Looks like I was right with the 1871 Census
I'll take a look for them on the 1861 census later.
Sandy
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Currie
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Re: mcphersons scotsforth lancs
Hello Utrecht,
I’m not sure how far you’ve gone with this.
Using census info and just the index information at the FreeBMD site you can track the McPherson family fairly easily and probably over several generations. There seems to have been not much more than one McPherson family in the district of Lancaster. http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl
He seems to have had several occupations over the years including ironworks storekeeper, insurance agent and gardener.
The Lancaster Gazette etc, Saturday, May 03, 1884, has a death notice “Bolton-le-Sands—On the 29th ult., William Grant, son of Mr John McPherson, insurance agent, aged 13 years.”
This site has transcriptions of Parish registers and you’ll find details of baptisms, marriages and burials for the family. The family graves appear to be at Holy Trinity in Bolton-le Sands. http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Lancaster/stp ... -1900.html
I think this is the church and churchyard, the one with the square tower.
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=54 ... 8,,0,-3.04
Hope that’s useful,
Alan
I’m not sure how far you’ve gone with this.
Using census info and just the index information at the FreeBMD site you can track the McPherson family fairly easily and probably over several generations. There seems to have been not much more than one McPherson family in the district of Lancaster. http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl
He seems to have had several occupations over the years including ironworks storekeeper, insurance agent and gardener.
The Lancaster Gazette etc, Saturday, May 03, 1884, has a death notice “Bolton-le-Sands—On the 29th ult., William Grant, son of Mr John McPherson, insurance agent, aged 13 years.”
This site has transcriptions of Parish registers and you’ll find details of baptisms, marriages and burials for the family. The family graves appear to be at Holy Trinity in Bolton-le Sands. http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Lancaster/stp ... -1900.html
I think this is the church and churchyard, the one with the square tower.
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=54 ... 8,,0,-3.04
Hope that’s useful,
Alan
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SandySandilands
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Re: mcphersons scotsforth lancs
Found Mary Bruce on the 1861 Census:
1861 Scotland Census about Mary M Bruce
Name: Mary M Bruce
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relationship: Daughter
Father's name: John Bruce
Mother's name: Jane Bruce
Gender: Female
Where born: Carmyllie, Forfarshire
Registration Number: 286
Registration district: Farnell
Civil parish: Farnell
County: Angus
Address: New Forebank
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 127
Line: 25
Roll: CSSCT1861_42
Household Members:
Name Age
John Bruce 46
Jane Bruce 39
Mary M Bruce 18
John M Bruce 16
Ann K Bruce 14
Elizabeth M Bruce 12
James M Bruce 10
Jean Bruce 7
Isabella Bruce 5
Margaret Bruce 3
Edward Bruce 2
Father: John Bruce b.1815 - Errol, Pethshire
Mother: Jane, b.1822 - Arbroath, Forfarshire
I think this is John and his family on the 1841 Census:
Name: John Mcpherson
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Gender: Male
Where born: Banffshire, Scotland
Civil parish: Aberlour
County: Banffshire
Address: Mill
Parish Number: 145
Household Members:
Name Age
William Mcpheron 30
Christine Grant 32
John Mcpherson 1
Father William, b. 1811 - Banffshire, Scotland
Mother Christin2, b. 1809 - Banffshire, Scotland
Hope it helps
Sandy
1861 Scotland Census about Mary M Bruce
Name: Mary M Bruce
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relationship: Daughter
Father's name: John Bruce
Mother's name: Jane Bruce
Gender: Female
Where born: Carmyllie, Forfarshire
Registration Number: 286
Registration district: Farnell
Civil parish: Farnell
County: Angus
Address: New Forebank
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 127
Line: 25
Roll: CSSCT1861_42
Household Members:
Name Age
John Bruce 46
Jane Bruce 39
Mary M Bruce 18
John M Bruce 16
Ann K Bruce 14
Elizabeth M Bruce 12
James M Bruce 10
Jean Bruce 7
Isabella Bruce 5
Margaret Bruce 3
Edward Bruce 2
Father: John Bruce b.1815 - Errol, Pethshire
Mother: Jane, b.1822 - Arbroath, Forfarshire
I think this is John and his family on the 1841 Census:
Name: John Mcpherson
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Gender: Male
Where born: Banffshire, Scotland
Civil parish: Aberlour
County: Banffshire
Address: Mill
Parish Number: 145
Household Members:
Name Age
William Mcpheron 30
Christine Grant 32
John Mcpherson 1
Father William, b. 1811 - Banffshire, Scotland
Mother Christin2, b. 1809 - Banffshire, Scotland
Hope it helps
Sandy
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Currie
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Re: mcphersons scotsforth lancs
Here’s some from the Online Parish Clerk site I mentioned previously.
Baptism: 12 May 1872 St John, Yealand Conyers, Lancashire, England
Annie Bella Bruce McPherson? - Daughter of John McPherson? & Mary
Abode: Yealand Conyers
Occupation: police officer
Baptised by: W M SHAW, Vicar
Register: Baptisms 1858 - 1920, P 19, No 151
Source: Film 1849661
Baptism: 15 Mar 1874 Holy Trinity, Bolton le Sands, Lancashire, England
Alfred John McPherson - Son of John McPherson & Mary
Born: 6 Jan 1874
Abode: Bolton
Occupation: Gardener
Baptised by: Robt. Fisher
Register: Baptisms 1854 - 1878, Page 82, Entry 656
Source: Film 1849647
Banns: St Mary, Lancaster, Lancashire, England
Alfred John McPherson - Bachelor of the parish of Scotforth
Jane Stockdale - Spinster of the parish of St Lukes, Skerton
First Reading: 5 Dec 1897; Read By: Geo. Bird
Second Reading: 12 Dec 1897; Read By: Geo. Bird
Third Reading: 19 Dec 1897; Read By: Geo. Bird
Register: Banns 1896 - 1900, Page 28, Entry 84
Source: LDS Film 1526203
Marriage: 23 Dec 1897 St Paul, Scotforth, Lancashire, England
Alfred John McPherson - 23 Labourer Bachelor of Gordon Villas, Bowerham
Jane Stockdale - 23 Spinster of 2, Briery Street, The Marsh
Groom's Father: John Grant McPherson, Gardener
Bride's Father: William Stockdale, Store Keeper
Witness: Henry Stockdale; R. B. McPherson
Married by Banns by: William ARMITAGE, Vicar
Register: Marriages 1876 - 1900, Page 134, Entry 267
Source: LDS Film 1526062
Marriage: 3 Apr 1899 St Paul, Scotforth, Lancashire, England
Douglad McLeod McPherson - 26 Grocer's Assistant Bachelor of 14, Trevellan Street, Accrington
Annie Wilson - 20 Spinster of Gordon Viallas, Scotforth
Groom's Father: John McPherson, Gardener
Witness: John Bateson; A. B. McPherson
Married by Banns by: William ARMITAGE, Vicar
Register: Marriages 1876 - 1900, Page 146, Entry 292
Source: LDS Film 1526062
Burial: 2 May 1884 Holy Trinity, Bolton le Sands, Lancashire, England
William Grant McPherson -
Age: 13
Abode: Bolton le Sands
Buried by: R Masheter, Ass't Curate
Register: Burials 1875 - 1920, Page 31, Entry 245
Source: LDS Film 1849647
Burial: 7 Apr 1887 Holy Trinity, Bolton le Sands, Lancashire, England
Mary Jane McPherson -
Age: 17
Abode: Scotforth
Buried by: J P Haslam
Register: Burials 1875 - 1920, Page 40, Entry 318
Source: LDS Film 1849647
Burial: 13 Aug 1894 Holy Trinity, Bolton le Sands, Lancashire, England
Mary McPherson -
Age: 51
Abode: Scotforth
Buried by: Thomas Mercer
Register: Burials 1875 - 1920, Page 61, Entry 484
Source: LDS Film 1849647
Burial: 21 Dec 1896 Holy Trinity, Bolton le Sands, Lancashire, England
Beatrice McPherson -
Age: 20
Abode: Gordon Villas, Scotforth
Buried by: Thomas Mercer
Register: Burials 1875 - 1920, Page 66, Entry 523
Source: LDS Film 1849647
Alan
Baptism: 12 May 1872 St John, Yealand Conyers, Lancashire, England
Annie Bella Bruce McPherson? - Daughter of John McPherson? & Mary
Abode: Yealand Conyers
Occupation: police officer
Baptised by: W M SHAW, Vicar
Register: Baptisms 1858 - 1920, P 19, No 151
Source: Film 1849661
Baptism: 15 Mar 1874 Holy Trinity, Bolton le Sands, Lancashire, England
Alfred John McPherson - Son of John McPherson & Mary
Born: 6 Jan 1874
Abode: Bolton
Occupation: Gardener
Baptised by: Robt. Fisher
Register: Baptisms 1854 - 1878, Page 82, Entry 656
Source: Film 1849647
Banns: St Mary, Lancaster, Lancashire, England
Alfred John McPherson - Bachelor of the parish of Scotforth
Jane Stockdale - Spinster of the parish of St Lukes, Skerton
First Reading: 5 Dec 1897; Read By: Geo. Bird
Second Reading: 12 Dec 1897; Read By: Geo. Bird
Third Reading: 19 Dec 1897; Read By: Geo. Bird
Register: Banns 1896 - 1900, Page 28, Entry 84
Source: LDS Film 1526203
Marriage: 23 Dec 1897 St Paul, Scotforth, Lancashire, England
Alfred John McPherson - 23 Labourer Bachelor of Gordon Villas, Bowerham
Jane Stockdale - 23 Spinster of 2, Briery Street, The Marsh
Groom's Father: John Grant McPherson, Gardener
Bride's Father: William Stockdale, Store Keeper
Witness: Henry Stockdale; R. B. McPherson
Married by Banns by: William ARMITAGE, Vicar
Register: Marriages 1876 - 1900, Page 134, Entry 267
Source: LDS Film 1526062
Marriage: 3 Apr 1899 St Paul, Scotforth, Lancashire, England
Douglad McLeod McPherson - 26 Grocer's Assistant Bachelor of 14, Trevellan Street, Accrington
Annie Wilson - 20 Spinster of Gordon Viallas, Scotforth
Groom's Father: John McPherson, Gardener
Witness: John Bateson; A. B. McPherson
Married by Banns by: William ARMITAGE, Vicar
Register: Marriages 1876 - 1900, Page 146, Entry 292
Source: LDS Film 1526062
Burial: 2 May 1884 Holy Trinity, Bolton le Sands, Lancashire, England
William Grant McPherson -
Age: 13
Abode: Bolton le Sands
Buried by: R Masheter, Ass't Curate
Register: Burials 1875 - 1920, Page 31, Entry 245
Source: LDS Film 1849647
Burial: 7 Apr 1887 Holy Trinity, Bolton le Sands, Lancashire, England
Mary Jane McPherson -
Age: 17
Abode: Scotforth
Buried by: J P Haslam
Register: Burials 1875 - 1920, Page 40, Entry 318
Source: LDS Film 1849647
Burial: 13 Aug 1894 Holy Trinity, Bolton le Sands, Lancashire, England
Mary McPherson -
Age: 51
Abode: Scotforth
Buried by: Thomas Mercer
Register: Burials 1875 - 1920, Page 61, Entry 484
Source: LDS Film 1849647
Burial: 21 Dec 1896 Holy Trinity, Bolton le Sands, Lancashire, England
Beatrice McPherson -
Age: 20
Abode: Gordon Villas, Scotforth
Buried by: Thomas Mercer
Register: Burials 1875 - 1920, Page 66, Entry 523
Source: LDS Film 1849647
Alan
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utrecht003
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Re: mcphersons scotsforth lancs
many thanks for all that info sandy and currie.some I had but there is also some new bits which is of great help.It looks like next monday I will be heading south to the Holy Trinity In bolton-le-sands.
I will let you know how I got on. once again many thanks utrecht
I will let you know how I got on. once again many thanks utrecht
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Re: mcphersons scotsforth lancs
By the purest chance, in researching the family of Stockdale in Lancaster, I came upon your postings about Macphersons. Alfred Macpherson married Jane Stockdale at St paul's Scotforth on 23rd December 1897.
Can you tell me when Alfred died?
These coincidences are uncanny aren't they
ps I'm not related to Jane. I'm researching this family for a friend who lives in France.
Regards,
Keith Carter
Can you tell me when Alfred died?
These coincidences are uncanny aren't they
ps I'm not related to Jane. I'm researching this family for a friend who lives in France.
Regards,
Keith Carter
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SarahND
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Re: mcphersons scotsforth lancs
Hello Keith and ![TS welcome [TS_welcome]](./images/smilies/TS_welcome.png)
Glad you found the forum. utrecht hasn't been on the forum for over a month, but a message will be sent that you have added to the topic, so you should have some news soon.
All the best,
Sarah
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Glad you found the forum. utrecht hasn't been on the forum for over a month, but a message will be sent that you have added to the topic, so you should have some news soon.
All the best,
Sarah