Age variations

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trish1
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Age variations

Post by trish1 » Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:31 am

I'm not sure I can get further back with this family - looking for ideas

William Warr (of Bridport in the County of Dorset) married Priscilla Cook of this parish - 11 Aug 1819 Greenwich St Alphege witnesses G Warrf (Warss? - could be Warr embellished? ) and Wm Langrish

William Warr - ages found - birth consistently given as Bridport
1841 - 40 (so 40-44)
1851 - 52
1861 - 68
1871 - 78
1878 (death) age 85

From parish records, 2 possible baptisms for a William Warr in Bridport
Dec 25 1792 son of Joseph & Frances (I favour this one) - there is a brother George baptised 1787 (witness on marriage?)
Dec 26 1796 son of William & Sarah Bull (unusual for English registers to give mother's maiden name but this page seems to have them all)

Priscilla - ages found - birth consistently given as Greenwich
1841 - 35 (so 35-39)
1851 - 42
1861 - 56
1867 (death) 65

The only possible baptism I can find is Greenwich St Alfege 1May 1799 Priscilla dau of John Clark Cook a victualler & Ann b. Apr 12 - which seems slightly early

Children of William and Priscilla are
John Watson 1821
William 1823
Joseph Cook 1826
Henry 1827
Frederick 1830

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Re: Age variations

Post by SarahND » Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:07 pm

Hi Trish,
I think you have the right Priscilla, but I realize that is not proof! :lol: As I'm sure you know, John Clark Cooke and Ann Wood were married on 13th Jan 1788 in Greenwich St Alphege in the presence of William Cooke.

There are 5 children baptized at St Alphege:

John 1 Dec 1788
Thos 16 Apr 1790
Another John born Nov 19, 1791 baptized Dec 14
Joseph 22 Feb 1797
Priscilla 1 May 1799

What would be lovely is to find the will of John Clark Cook(e) mentioning his daughter Priscilla Warr… I don't see a sign of a will offhand, though :(

Have you looked up marriages for some of her siblings to see if by some miracle William Warr is a witness?

Best wishes,
Sarah

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Re: Age variations

Post by trish1 » Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:06 am

Hi Sarah - it's useful that you think the 1799 Priscilla may be mine - because it has me looking for more reasons as to why. I was initially quite positive about it - but then found no-one else with trees on the net gave it a mention. Today I double checked those trees & realise they have all taken Priscilla's year of birth from the 1851 census - which has her born in 1809. Extremely unlikely given that she married in 1819. A couple of the trees are quite useful and contain lots of verification so I am surprised that they have 1809 as a birth date - especially as the marriage image is available on ancestry.

I've had no joy with the siblings marriages - I found a John & a Joseph married in St Alphege - at about the right time - no sign of a Warr witness - but not surprising as Priscilla and William moved to Bridport where all their children were born. It could, however be useful to check William via your suggestion & I don't think I have checked his siblings(although I have been checking this family off/on for many years).

John Clark Cooke was buried in Greenwich in 1832 (pre civil registration - although unless Wm Warr was the informant of little use in England) - there are a few possible for Ann

There is a will for a John Cook of Woolwich Kent - in 1833 - probably the closest - but I doubt it is John Clark Cooke. Nothing suitable for Ann.

thank you for the ideas

Trish

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Re: Age variations

Post by SarahND » Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:25 pm

Yes, it was the marriage date that made me realize the 1851 census age was way off. I never trust those ages anyway, having seen too many that were obviously not correct! In this case the usual option of checking the census age when she was a child (more likely to be accurate) is not available to you. And online trees... I came across one the other day that had a man born in 1903 fathering a son who was born in 1759 :shock: :lol: Sometime people just don't think...

I hope you find just the right obscure bit of document you need to verify this! It is not a straightforward search.

[cheers]
Sarah