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thomsos
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Advice please

Post by thomsos » Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:16 am

I am looking for some advice on finding details on a marriage cert, what I have so far is - George W Huddleston married Mary C Fairley in Portsmouth 1930 Oct-Dec 2b 1430.
What I would like to know is how to find out details about George, e.g – age, parents etc, do I have to send away for the cert? or is there any way I can find these details online. All my other ancestors come from Scotland so I have been managing to get their details from SP.

Thanks
Sandra
Researching- Clark from Polmont, Wason from Dailly, Anderson & Williamson from Bridgeton, also Thomson, Sharp, Bryce, Gillen & Fairley

sporran
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Re: English marriage certificate

Post by sporran » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:44 am

Hello Sandra,


English certificates contain less detail than their Scottish counterparts, and there is no way to get the details online unless someone else has researched this family and has published the transcribed details.

The heading will be Marriage solemnized at <e.g. the parish church> in the <e.g. parish> of <e.g. parish name> in the county of <county>.
There is an entry number and 8 columns, with separate bride and groom details for columns 2-8:
1. When married
2. Name and surname
3. Age
4. Condition (bachelor, widower, etc.)
5. Rank or profession
6. Residence at the time of marriage
7. Father's name and surname (N.B. no mother's name is mentioned)
8. Rank or profession of father.

This is followed by the signatures of both parties and the witnesses followed by the declaration of the person conducting the marriage. These will not be the actual signatures, but the writing of the person who filled out the entry in the county records.

Certificates can be ordered by application to the appropriate registration district (cash or cheque only), or centrally online (debit and credit cards accepted) at:
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/ .

That will cost £7, and you will need to supply the index number, which you stated was Portsmouth;2b 1430 for Dec quarter of 1930. Incidentally, the district name and volume number go together, so until a renumbering some years ago it was always Portsmouth;2b, i.e. there were no other numbers associated with Portsmouth.

SP is a better, easier, faster, and much cheaper service by comparison.

If you would like to see an example, please e-mail me and I will send a scan.


Regards,

John

thomsos
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Re: English marriage certificate

Post by thomsos » Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:33 pm

sporran wrote: SP is a better, easier, faster, and much cheaper service by comparison.

If you would like to see an example, please e-mail me and I will send a scan.


Regards,

John
John,
I have sent you an e-mail.
Sandra
Researching- Clark from Polmont, Wason from Dailly, Anderson & Williamson from Bridgeton, also Thomson, Sharp, Bryce, Gillen & Fairley

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Post by trish1 » Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:29 am

If your English couple were married in a C of E church, it may be possible for you (or someone else) to access the parish register which will contain the marriage details. Most parish registers are kept at the County archives offices (excepting the recent ones still held by the church) - but you will need to know the parish in which the marriage took place & perhaps even the date to find your marriage.

You should be able to check here as to whether your record would be at the Hampshire Records Office
http://www.hants.gov.uk/record-office/parish.html

Trish

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Post by thomsos » Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:07 pm

I'm not sure, but I think the were married in the RC church, George was in the Royal navy, do you think I could possible find anything from that?

Sandra
Researching- Clark from Polmont, Wason from Dailly, Anderson & Williamson from Bridgeton, also Thomson, Sharp, Bryce, Gillen & Fairley

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Post by emanday » Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:19 pm

Hi Sandra,

I had a search on FindMyPast for a birth 1900 - 1910 for George W Huddleston.

Good news and bad news. There are some - that's the good news!

Bad news - there are five of them - take your pick of these :roll:

George William Huddlestone in Ulverston 1st Quarter 1909 Vol 8e Page 751

George William Huddleston in Bridlington 3rd Quarter 1904 Vol 9d Page 391

George Creswick W Huddleston in Croydon 2nd Quarter of 1902 Vol 2a Page 273

George William Huddleston in Tynemouth 2nd Quarter 1901 Vol 10h Page 232

George William Huddleston in Eccleshall B 2nd Quarter 1901 Vol 9c Page 397
[b]Mary[/b]
A cat leaves pawprints on your heart
McDonald or MacDonald (some couldn't make up their mind!), Bonner, Crichton, McKillop, Campbell, Cameron, Gitrig (+other spellings), Clark, Sloan, Stewart, McCutcheon, Ireland (the surname)

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Post by thomsos » Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:34 pm

Hi Mary,
Yes I know about the 5 of them, just don't know which one to choose :?

I'm still quite a novice with my Scottish ancestors, but I feel as though I have gone back to when I first started doing my tree since I started to look for info on George from England :roll:

Sandra :(
Researching- Clark from Polmont, Wason from Dailly, Anderson & Williamson from Bridgeton, also Thomson, Sharp, Bryce, Gillen & Fairley

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Post by emanday » Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:46 pm

Know the feeling :roll:

One of my rellies moved from Glasgow to West Ham in 1880/81, had nine kids and I still can't choose which of a selection of deaths for both him and his wife to choose from :lol:

I already know his Scottish ancestry, but would like to get when and where he died. His wife was supposedly Canadian, but even getting her death date and father's name would fill in at least a couple of blanks.

I'm beginning to contemplate the "shut my eyes stick a pin in the list" method of research :lol:
[b]Mary[/b]
A cat leaves pawprints on your heart
McDonald or MacDonald (some couldn't make up their mind!), Bonner, Crichton, McKillop, Campbell, Cameron, Gitrig (+other spellings), Clark, Sloan, Stewart, McCutcheon, Ireland (the surname)

thomsos
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Post by thomsos » Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:02 pm

I think I may just ignore George :- lol
Researching- Clark from Polmont, Wason from Dailly, Anderson & Williamson from Bridgeton, also Thomson, Sharp, Bryce, Gillen & Fairley

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Post by AnneM » Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:26 pm

Dear Sandra

Why don't you get the marriage certificate to get your chap's father's name and his age? The age should help you narrow down the George Huddleston that it could be.

If you got his Dad's name you would then be able to look for Dad on the 1901 census which would give you yet another clue to where George was born. At least it would if there was someone of that name in or near one of the places where a George was born. You could also look for a marriage of Dad in a place where one of the Georges was born to give a better chance of finding the right one. None of these tactics might work but any of them is worth a try and better than giving up.

Anne
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