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crayspond
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Post by crayspond » Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:55 pm

Hi to all at TS,

I managed to narrow down the church where my gt gt grandparents would have been married in N.I by contacting PRONI. However before i go forward with a search (approx 15.50 per 15 mins) has any one out there actually done it and also can any one tell me what would be on the marriage cert? The details are below.

JAMES DICKSON
Male
Marriages:
Spouse: ELIZA JANE MURPHY
Marriage: 08 APR 1834 Dromore Parish, Down, Ireland


Below is the info from Proni


C.I. Dromore (Cathedral, Christ the Redeemer) (Dromore
diocese
Baptisms, 1784-1871; marriages, 1784-1845; burials, 1784-1812 and 1816-73; confirmation lists, 1823-46 (with gaps).
MIC/583/35-36


Any info is much appreciated.

Regards
Ailsa

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Post by LesleyB » Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:26 pm

Hi Ailsa
Given the date of 1834, I think it is unlikely to be a marriage certificate. I think it is more likley to be a church record, and as such the content will vary depending on the area, just like the OPRs do for Scotland, so a bit of a unknown quantity, unless anyone is familiar with the records from that particular church and knows how much info is given.

As it is Church of Ireland, there may be a bit more info than RC records, but I'm just guessing here!

Best wishes
Lesley

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Post by crayspond » Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:06 am

Thanks Lesley,

It is so frustrating - all i really want is an address where they lived so if i go over to Ireland i have somewhere to start.
I did ask PRONI what i could expect to see - but have not had a reply (they probably don't know either but i wanted to know approx how long my search would be as at 15.50 per 15 mins could be expensive.
I also emailed the church direct and i am awaiting a reply. Everything connected to irish genealogy seems to be expensive. It makes you appreciate scotlandspeople and how accessible and reasonable it is.


Ailsa

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Post by LesleyB » Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:13 am

Ailsa - why don't you see if your local LDS centre can order the microfilm for you? That is what I do with my Irish branches.

You do not have to be a member, but you do need to pay on ordering the film. What you have pasted above looks like it came from the LDS records, so I suspect they will have access to the microfilms, though you may have to wait a few weeks for the film to arrive. The cost to you is £2.70.

Best wishes
Lesley

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Post by crayspond » Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:34 am

Hi Lesley,

Thanks for the reply. I rang my local LDS and was told that it would cost 7.50 to order the reel and i would have it for 90 days to use. However they are not ordering until September as they will be closing down for 2 months during school holidays. So i will have to wait until then.

Regards

Ailsa

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Post by LesleyB » Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:00 am

Hi Ailsa
I rang my local LDS and was told that it would cost 7.50 to order the reel and i would have it for 90 days to use.
That is odd - my local LDS charges £2.70, or maybe £2.80 per film and it is available to use for 3 weeks (21 days), so sounds like a different system altogether. I has assumed it would be the same across the county, but looks like it is not.

Still, at least it is substantially cheaper than PRONI and the best bit is that you get to see the film yourself, not just one small section of it. I expect they will have facilities to produce a print out from the film - my local LDS centre has a machine which does this.

I think this looks like the film you were talking of:
  • Parish register printouts of Dromore, Down, Ireland, marriages, 1784-1845
    Extracted from printed copy of church records. 941.65/D2 V26dr v. 2.
    Parish register printouts of Dromore, Down, Ireland, marriages, 1784-1845 - FHL BRITISH Film [ 883747 Item 8 ]
    The Church of Ireland Parish Church of Dromore was the Cathedral Church of Christ the Redeemer.
or this one:
  • Dromore Parish Church, County Down, Northern Ireland, [parish registers, 1784-1873] copied by Z. Mettam, June 1966

    Typescript.
    Contents: v. 1. Baptisms, births, 1784-1834 -- v. 2. Births, 1833-1871, marriages, 1784-1845, burials, 1784-1873.
    The Church of Ireland parish church for Dromore was the Cathedral Church of Christ the Redeemer.
    Also on microfilm. Salt Lake City : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1970. on 2 microfilm reels ; 35 mm.
    Vol. 1. Baptisms and births, 1784-1834. - FHL US/CAN Film [ 496515 Item 6 ]
    Vol. 2. Baptisms and births, 1833-1871; marriages, 1784-1845; burials, 1784-1873. - FHL US/CAN Film [ 496723 Item 3 ]
In both cases it looks from the above as if this is copied from the original records, so not sure what the content will be. I'd guess you will only be able to order the one with the BRITISH film number.

Best wishes
Lesley

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Post by crayspond » Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:06 pm

Hi Lesley,

The FHL British film is the one that i found and this is the one i was going to order. Do you know if i would only get the marriages from 1784 - 1845 ? or would it contain all the info i.e births, deaths from these dates.

Ailsa

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Post by LesleyB » Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:41 pm

Hi Ailsa

All the info is on the LDS web site: www.familysearch.org
Click on the library tab, then select Library catalog
If you chosse film/fiche search then enter the number 0883747 you should be able to see what is on that film.

Another way to search is to choose Placesearch and enter a placename e.g. Dromore

Best wishes
Lesley