N. Ireland Records on IGI .....

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N. Ireland Records on IGI .....

Post by Jean Jeanie » Tue Jan 18, 2005 10:15 pm

My great grandfather came from N.I. Info from his marriage certificate had usual place of residence ,Can't decipher the street, Belfast Ireland. Parents James Stewart and Jane Galbraith. Thinking in a SP head I knew I could not find them on SP.
Tried IGI search for children using the parents names and voila! 7 kids, including my great grandfather, all "extracted births." Also a marriage for the parents, which happens to be a "submission by a member." However I will take this as true - no reason not to - . This will be the first time I have taken a "submission by a member" to be gospel.

How do others feel about the "submissions" on the IGI site compared to the "extracts?"

Being new to this game I would appreciate your thoughts and/or opinions

Jean

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Post by Andy » Tue Jan 18, 2005 10:52 pm

Dates are really important as (unfortunately) is their religion. While a good number of submissions on IGI are completely accurate Stewart and Galbraith are EXTREMELY common names as are James and Jane.

There are some names that conform to a probablity (numbers game) but I personally would exclude Stewart/Galbraith from this. Sorry!

However, all the births seem to be after full registration in Ireland started in 1864 (did you know that Jews were recorded before Catholics?). So I'd say there is a better than 75% chance that the listing are yours.

Again, however, at that time I wouldn't have thought Clogh to Ballymena a realistic "commuting" option.

I'd be looking for valuation records, pension petitions, 1901 census for confirmation.
Searching for Keogh, Kelly, Fitzgerald, Riddell, Stewart, Wilson, McQuilkin, Lynch, Boyle, Cairney, Ross, King, McIlravey, McCurdy, Drennan and Woods (to name but a few).

Also looking for any information on Rathlin Island, County Antrim, Ireland.

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Post by IanS » Wed Jan 19, 2005 12:35 pm

Jean- Re Irish Extracts on I.G.I.

Clogh is a registrars district within the much larger Superintendant Registrars District(formerly Poor Law Unions) of Ballymena.

First look at this page, especially the part dealing with early registration.

http://www.groireland.ie/history.htm#THE BEGINNINGS OF REGISTRATION

Now when the mormans were transcribing the films of civil reg in Ireland, they didn't keep their placename index strictly the same as the master index in Groni which only shows the Superintendant Registrars District or Poor Law Union,( the actual record has to be accessed before you see the local registrar office and placename where they actually stayed). Some transcribers have put the local registrar, some the superintendant registrars, some both, some only Ireland.

So basically, when using the online I.G.I. and it has extracted records from Ireland, the placename mentioned may not be the actual place they stayed, but their local or Superintendant Registrars office.

Unlike Scotland or England, Irish Records were indexed firstly by year, then quarter yearly by alphabetical order , not district, so in effect you have all the births from one quarter(or year) for the whole of ireland, regardless of district, together. (until 1903 when it changed again) Unlike Scotland, where you can find many members of the same family on the same film.

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Post by IanS » Wed Jan 19, 2005 12:44 pm

Jean , You may find a couple of postings on this site interesting, especially the ''Records of Congregation'' posting.

http://www.antrimhistory.net/forum/showthread.php?

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Re: N. Ireland Records on IGI

Post by DavidWW » Wed Jan 19, 2005 12:45 pm

Jean Jeanie wrote:............How do others feel about the "submissions" on the IGI site compared to the "extracts?"

Being new to this game I would appreciate your thoughts and/or opinions..........Jean
Jean

Please see my post in the Research Sources forum.

Orraverybest

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Post by IanS » Wed Jan 19, 2005 2:09 pm

Jean, the Antrimhistory link doesn't seem to take you to the page I intended, no matter, use link, go to Forum Jump, then search forums, then enter 'keyword' clogh. This should take you to postings.

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Post by Jean Jeanie » Wed Jan 19, 2005 2:52 pm

IanS wrote:Jean, the Antrimhistory link doesn't seem to take you to the page I intended, no matter, use link, go to Forum Jump, then search forums, then enter 'keyword' clogh. This should take you to postings.
Thanks for the info Ian. I have only just started on my N.Irish connections so all this info is very useful indeed. Found the Records of Congregation on the site.
Jean