James King .....

[Carolann]

Hi

I am trying to find out if James King b 22/08/1899 dalry. He left for America in November 1923 and went to Braddock in PA. He died in July 1966. How could I find out if he ever married.

Any information would be great.

Cheers

carolann

[SarahND]

Hi Carolann,
In the 1930 census he has a wife and daughter, and says he married at age 25. Here is the record:

North Braddock, Allegheny County, Pennsylvania
James King- head, 30, age at first marriage: 25, born in Scotland, year of immigration: 1924, carpenter's helper on the railroad
Catherine- wife, 36, age at first marriage: 31, born in Illinois
Dorothy- daughter, 4, born in Pennsylvania

Regards,
Sarah

[SarahND]

Hello again!
Have you tried looking for an obituary, since you know the date and place of his death? The Social Security Death Index confirms your information (may even be where you got it!)

Name: James King
SSN: 174-05-4553
Last Residence: 15104 Braddock, Allegheny, Pennsylvania, United States of America
Born: 22 Aug 1899
Died: Jul 1966
State (Year) SSN issued: Pennsylvania (Before 1951 )

If you write to the librarian at the Carnegie Library in Pittsburgh, (and that's NOT "Pittsburra" ) you might even be able to have them look up the obituary and send it to you. With luck, it will tell you about his family. Here's the URL:

http://www.clpgh.org/locations/pennsylvania/

Cheers,
Sarah

[Russell]

Naughty, naughty Sarah

It was our language first until it was hijacked by a motley assortment of folk who spoke a variety of other languages and the only one they had roughly in common was ours. You may have iceBERGS we have Burra's.

Russell

[SarahND]

You may have iceBERGS we have Burra's.Russell

You mean the Pittsburgh Penguins, I presume (having quickly googled and found out about them...)

Actually, it was all due to losing that great "ch" sound, as in "loch". It's easy to see how if you try to say /rgh/ as in 1) roll your /r/ with the tip of your tongue 2) say "ch" right afterwards in the back of your mouth, you end up with something that sounds like "rrrach" (the "a" being the vowel you get nearest to the back "ch" sound) which, if you say it fast enough, becomes "rra" with the back of the tongue not bothering to come all the way up at the end of the word Thing is, the spelling got stuck so all those other "motley" folk just gave it the spelling pronunciation of a standard "g"...
You can have the last laugh (word ending with the "ch" sound) when I arrive in Scotland in 3 weeks and try to pronounce things

Sarah

[Ted]

Hi Carolann

If SKS who has access to Ances*** could do a look up for you in the WW2 draft registration card index (doesn't mean he served in the US Military during the war - but every male US citizen over 18 had to register) - you may get some indication if he was married or not - the list details name, address, date & place of birth, employers name & address and details of person who will always know the name & address. If he was married this last part would give his wife's name. At least this info will give you details of where he was 12 years after the 1930 census. The city directories may also give some info.

Best regards

Ted

[SarahND]

Hi Ted,
Good thought, but James isn't in the database, since he was born just a few years too late. Here is part of the description (my emphasis):

This database is an indexed collection of the draft cards from the Fourth Registration, the only registration currently available to the public (the other registrations are not available due to privacy laws). The Fourth Registration, often referred to as the "old man's registration", was conducted on 27 April 1942 and registered men who were born on or between 28 April 1877 and 16 February 1897 - men who were between 45 and 64 years old - and who were not already in the military.

Cheers,
Sarah

[Ted]

Hi Sarah

Thanks for clarifying the criteria - I didn't know that bit about the age spectrum. I got a draft reg card for one of my mob, which helped me a lot - but he was born 1887.

Thanks lots

Ted

[Bob C]

Hi

I am trying to find out if James King b 22/08/1899 dalry. He left for America in November 1923 and went to Braddock in PA. He died in July 1966. How could I find out if he ever married.

Any information would be great.

Cheers

carolann

Carolann,

If you will go to www.ellisisland.org and search on James King with a birth year of 1899 you will find the ship manifest for his arrival in the US. Registration is required but it is free! It shows that he arrived on 1 November 1923 aboard the SS Columbia sailing from Glasgow. His occupation was listed as a "shot firer in mine" and his last permanent resident was in Prestwick. His closest relative was his father, John King residing at 8 Boydfield Avenue, Prestwick. His destination was his cousin's home, Joseph McDonald, 568 Hawkins Avenue N. Braddock, PA. He was 5ft 5in tall, had a fresh complection, brown hair and grey eyes. He is listed as born in Dalry.

His Ellis Island database passenger ID number is listed as 103388080591 for future reference.


Hope this helps!

Bob

Edit: There are two pages to the ship manifest and the records were scanned in reverse order so the second page always comes up first. To see the first page when on the screen showing the small image of the manifest you must click on "next" to get the first page. This very counter intuitive!

Bob

[Carolann]

Hi Sarah and everyone

Thank you for this information. I already had the information from Ellis Island and Bob thank you again for looking up.

However, I wasn't aware of the 1930 census and Saray thank you very much for this - it means a lot to me. I have contacted the Library and asked the question and will try and see I can find Catherine anywhere and his daughter.

Thank you all for this and again it means so much to me.

Carol