Helen Fairlie and Elizabeth Dutton .....

Post by **Jean Jeanie** » Sun Feb 04, 2007 8:13 pm

Can anyone find anything out about this pair?

They arrived in America in 1907. According to the Ellis Island site they were going to a Mr R Howard, Rosehill, Turtlecreek, PA. He is the husband of Helen's daughter Janet Fairlie (ley)born in 1884

Helen was aged 66 and Elizabeth was aged 18.

Helen is my g grandmother's sister. Elizabeth is her grandaughter

Jean

Ted · Post by **Ted** » Sun Feb 04, 2007 8:40 pm

Hi Jean

Don't have access myself but - if someone could check for all of them on the 1910 US census on Ancestry for you (and subsequent ones in 1920 and 1930) you may well get some answers. Some of our great TS pals across the pond have helped me on this many times. Want to bet who takes up the challenge first ? - my money might is on Just your namesake in Maine !!

Best regards

Ted

JustJean · Post by **JustJean** » Sun Feb 04, 2007 9:19 pm

Ted Ted Ted

My ears doth ringeth!! Ok...so you're right....I confess I was looking in the census returns already. But so far I've not had a break through. Haven't really drilled down but first pass through shows no HOWARD named people in Turtle Creek 1900 or 1910 which is not good!! I looked quickly for Helen and Elizabeth in 1910 but didn't see them either...but if they split up or Helen got married then it becomes much more complicated!! I did go find the immigration passenger record just to see what else it might hold for clues. I suppose you've seen this? If not let me know and I'll see what I can do. From that it state nearest of kin in Scotland for Elizabeth as Mrs. Martin, Blairhill, Coatbridge and for Helen, Archd Fairlie, 15 Albion Cottages, Broxburn. I can't be certain but there was a handwritten notation by Elizabeths name that might have meant she was a granddaughter to Helen??? There were other notes on the page such as "wife" but her's looked like grndau or some such.

So yeah...I'm looking but I'm not breaking down your wall just yet.

Best wishes
Jean

JustJean · Post by **JustJean** » Sun Feb 04, 2007 9:28 pm

yooohooo...spoke too soon! Got them in 1910 with "ellen" in household. Watch for some mail

Best wishes
Jean

Post by **Jean Jeanie** » Sun Feb 04, 2007 9:29 pm

Hi Jean

Yes, Elizabeth is Helen's granddaughter. I have no idea who Mrs Martin is at all. Archibald Fairley(Fairlie) is Helen's son. They keep changing the spelling of their surname, which doesn't help.

I can find no record of Ronald Howard or his wife going to America. But they got there somehow. Ronald Howard married Helen's daughter, Janet Fairley (Fairlie)in 1904 in Broxburn. His occupation was Journeyman Engineer, born 1879/1880 in Carnbroe, Bothwell.

Best wishes
Jean

Post by **SarahND** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:00 am

Hi Jean & Jean,
I assume you've wrapped this up and found them in 1910, 1920, 1930 and Ronald's passenger list?
If not, say the word

Regards,
Sarah

Post by **Jean Jeanie** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:03 am

Hi Sarah

Jean has found them for me in all the censuses.

I couldn't find Ronald's passenger list though.

Best wishes
Jean

Post by **SarahND** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:06 am

I've got Ronald's passenger list and their youngest child's birth record (well, maybe she's the youngest-- Janet in 1926)
Regards,
Sarah

Post by **Jean Jeanie** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:09 am

Hi Sarah

How is Ronald's name spelled on the passenger list? I tried all sorts of variations and couldn't find it.

Best wishes
Jean

Post by **SarahND** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:13 am

Hi Jean,
The name is spelled correctly, but there is a big ink blot on the page and they have got his age wrong. But he is an engineer, with a group of other engineers, so I'm pretty sure it's him.
All the best,
Sarah