Canigtoune (Glasgow) ?

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David Hamilton
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Canigtoune (Glasgow) ?

Post by David Hamilton » Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:20 am

Hello all,
Recently transcribed a Testament (Dative) from Glasgow Commissary Court from 1681.
One of the 'wryters' was a John Fleming 'of canigtoune'.
I have searched but have been unable to locate a place or building of this name (have used 'ton', 'toun' and 'toune' endings).
Have also tried various spellings such as caurgtoune, caningtoune, cauigtoune etc.
Does this name ring any bells?
The closest match i found was Craigton House (apparently held by a family of the name of Ritchie during this period).
'canigtoune' appears twice within the document and clearly begins 'ca' not 'cr'.
David.

johnniegarve
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Re: Canigtoune (Glasgow) ?

Post by johnniegarve » Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:49 am

David, sounds like it might be Cannerton, a place in Campsie parish, Stirlingshire, between Lennoxtown & Kirkintilloch. The Flemings were prominent landowners in the district. It was where Milton of Campsie now is, there is a Cannerton Court in the housing development. Johnnie.

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Re: Canigtoune (Glasgow) ?

Post by Currie » Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:54 am

Hello David,

Thinking that a Writer may likely leave property and a will I searched the wills at SP for any John Flemings with a place vaguely like Canigtoune. There’s one for a John Fleming, of Cautstoune, City of Glasgow, dated 1685, and another for a John Fleming, of Coutstoune, at Glasgow Commissary Court, dated 1690. Occupations aren’t shown.

Here’s John Flemyng of Coutstoune, in 1674, witnessing legal documents (line 11, page 185) http://www.archive.org/stream/chartersa ... 8/mode/2up

Also page 170 of this book, line 16, has a John Fleming of Cautstoune, and a half dozen lines below him, a John Fleming, notar in Coultstoune.
http://www.archive.org/stream/scottishr ... 0/mode/2up

Any chance any of the above could fit the bill?

Clutching at straws,
Alan

johnniegarve
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Re: Canigtoune (Glasgow) ?

Post by johnniegarve » Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:35 pm

A few more straws David.
Colston, north Glasgow, between Springburn & Bishopbriggs.
Couston, ruined castle, Bathgate, West Lothian.
Couston, restored castle, Aberdour, Fife.
Couston House, Perthshire.

David Hamilton
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Re: Canigtoune (Glasgow) ?

Post by David Hamilton » Tue Jul 19, 2011 1:23 am

Alan and Johnnie,
Thank you kindly for your assistance.

Cautstoune appears a likely match.

See the end of line 1 quhilk reids:

"The Quhilk day In p[rese]ns of John ffleming of Caut8toune de "

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16 ... /image.jpg

I have been interpreting the letter form which appears similar to a figure '8' as a 'g'.

Regards, David.

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Re: Canigtoune (Glasgow) ?

Post by Montrose Budie » Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:55 am

I'd be near certain that your '8' is an 's' and not a 'g' .

See the end of line 4 for this clerk's 'g'.

There's several probable 's' in the first few lines but it takes a hekkuva time read this hand to be sure of the words involved.

mb