Agnes McGoff 1855-1921 Disappears from family in between?..

[winslowsmom]

Wow Annette
That is such a wealth of information on those poor relief applications.
Thank you so much for transcribing them - that was no small feat, and you can be sure that it is much appreciated.

There is a lot of tidbits to give some insights. I suppose you can never really get the full picture, but it sure is amazing that we can find so much so many years later.

After reading your post, I looked at the virtual Mitchell website and actually found a photo of 21 Sydney Street where Jane Currie McGoff lived when applying for poor relief!

It was also interesting to see from Agnes' application that she did know of Jessie and her whereabouts, at least later in her life.

I looked again at certificates that I have. Jessie's birth certificate is a normal one - nothing on it anywhere about illegitemacy. It's an extract from GROS, the kind they print on official paper with a stamp. She was born 21 Sept 1879, reported by Agnes, signed with an X, named Janet Jeffrey McDonald, after John McDonald's mother Janet Jeffrey.

My mother and I were wondering if Agnes didn't have some sort of post partum depression.

Also, I must mention that I looked again at Jessie's marriage cert to Wm Christie, 9 March 1899. It doesn't say that either Agnes McGoff nor John McDonald is deceased. Wm Christie's mother was deceased, so the registrar did ask, I would think. So maybe when I search for John McDonald's death, I should extend it to 1906, if indeed she did know he was dead then.

I can see that this is going to keep me busy for quite a while.
Thank you again for all of your help.

[winslowsmom]

Hello again

I was looking further at old certs and was reminded that the parents of John McDonald both died, at different times, in the poorhouse or poorhouse hospital. Now that I understand the information that might be there, I am hoping that you might be able to take a look at these records the next time you have extra time and/or energy at the Mitchell.

WILLIAM MCDONALD died 5 January 1899 at the Barnhill Poorhouse.

JANET JEFFREY died 21 July 1904 at the Stobhill Hospital. I beleive that this was the poorhouse hospital.

Maybe one of their poor relief applications will say what son JOHN MCDONALD was up to.

Did I hear someone say somewhere that the Mitchell was going to be closed for a while though?

Cathy

[nelmit]

Hello again

I was looking further at old certs and was reminded that the parents of John McDonald both died, at different times, in the poorhouse or poorhouse hospital. Now that I understand the information that might be there, I am hoping that you might be able to take a look at these records the next time you have extra time and/or energy at the Mitchell.

WILLIAM MCDONALD died 5 January 1899 at the Barnhill Poorhouse.

JANET JEFFREY died 21 July 1904 at the Stobhill Hospital. I beleive that this was the poorhouse hospital.

Maybe one of their poor relief applications will say what son JOHN MCDONALD was up to.

Did I hear someone say somewhere that the Mitchell was going to be closed for a while though?

Cathy

Hello Cathy,

Here is Janet and William's story: D-HEW 10/4/54 18

28.11.1876
Janet Jeffrey McDonald
11 George Street
Place of birth – Maxwelton Paisley.
Mar’d + Des’d age 54 occ Twiner

Husband – Will. McDonald, 57, born Edinburgh Blackhall Close.
A weaver or coalporter.
Residing at 77 Drygate

Son of Hugh McDonald – bookbinder + Euphemia Tait both dead

Children John 24 b. 66 High St, married to This was frustratingly blank!
William 20
Mary 17

Daughter of George Jeffrey weaver & Margaret Wilson both dead
Had relief from Barony 6 years ago

It then jumps to : 4.6.92

William McDonald applies per wife from 11 E. John St. back 1 up. He is a coal porter aged 73. Earned 2/- during last fortnight but has no work this week.

Family. John a labourer off work with rheumatism married + 5 in Avenue St.
William 35 a bleachfield foreman married + 4 in Lisbon pays rent.
Mary 32 married 14 years ago to James O;Hara a labourer – he in Amercia – she a twiner + 2 children in Saltmarket.

In 11 East John St. Glasgow 65
His sister Euphemia in Australia
Wife’s sisters – Elizabeth, Widow Martin + 4 in Braehead.
Ann married + 0 to Charles Dryall a Tailor in John St, City

Applicant has wrought none for about 6 months. House is a single apartment. Fairly clean – poorly furnished. Has not a good bed – no blanket. Rent 6/- monthly. No lodgers. Not a church member. Neighbours speak favourably of him. Wife is said to take drink sometimes.
Granted medical relief. 6.6.92.

7. 5. 97. Wife admitted to poorhouse.
He died in City PH on 5. 1. .99.

8.2.99. Widow William McDonald Janet Jeffrey 58 High St. 2 up left.
Daughter Mrs o’hara. Apples for outdoor relief wholly unfit from procidentia uteri.

Family:
John, 46 married + 2 ch. Labourer with Mess. Keeson + Campbell ?? Westmuir, resides St. Johns Place, helps a little.
William, 42 married + 4 ch. in Lisbon, Portugal.
Mary, 39 married + 2 to James O'Hara, separated for 13 years.
This old woman is not able for work.

14.12.1900. Citation to son John at 3 St. Johns Place to attend committee.

17.10.1903. Transferred to Stobhill Hospital.

I have sent you info on John's family from the 1901 census and now you have lots of other people to follow up.
I will leave you now to piece the whole thing together.

Kind regards,
Annette M