McIntosh in Kilmarnock.....

karenmcc · Post by **karenmcc** » Fri Jun 17, 2005 12:54 pm

Hi All,

My ggggrandparents, Jean White and James McIntosh were married 07 Nov 1834, Kilmarnock. Children from IGI are Margaret b 1836, James b 1856 and Charles b 1859.

From the 1871 census at 2 High st Kilmarnock I have:

Jean McIntosh Head wid 56 Hand sewer b Kilmarnock
Marion (my gggrandmother) d single 20 " "
Anny McIntosh d 17 " "
James McIntosh s 15 " "
Jeannie McGibbon gd 1 " "

I have Jeans death in 1888.

Jane McIntosh (widow of James) d 31 July 1888 father John White (muslin weaver)d mother not known, signed son James McIntosh.

There is a 1814 birth in the IGI for Kilmarnock that could be her, father John mother Margaret Wilson.

Could someone please help me work out if this is correct?

Karen McCubbin

Post by **AndrewP** » Fri Jun 17, 2005 1:37 pm

Have you seen the OPR entry for this marriage, on the off-chance that there is some information giving parents' names. It is only a remote chance, but I cannot see much likelihood of you finding good evidence elsewhere.

The OPR should be available on microfilm at LDS Family History Centres (they should be able to order it in for you to view).

All the best,

Andrew Paterson

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Fri Jun 17, 2005 5:40 pm

karenmcc wrote:Hi All,

My ggggrandparents, Jean White and James McIntosh were married 07 Nov 1834, Kilmarnock. Children from IGI are Margaret b 1836, James b 1856 and Charles b 1859.

From the 1871 census at 2 High st Kilmarnock I have:

Jean McIntosh Head wid 56 Hand sewer b Kilmarnock
Marion (my gggrandmother) d single 20 " "
Anny McIntosh d 17 " "
James McIntosh s 15 " "
Jeannie McGibbon gd 1 " "

I have Jeans death in 1888.

Jane McIntosh (widow of James) d 31 July 1888 father John White (muslin weaver)d mother not known, signed son James McIntosh.

There is a 1814 birth in the IGI for Kilmarnock that could be her, father John mother Margaret Wilson.

Could someone please help me work out if this is correct?

Karen McCubbin

Hello Karen,

Like Andrew said it is unlikely to show anything but I will have a look at the marriage entry next time I'm at the Mitchell just in case. Let me know if you view it at an LDS centre before that.

Annette M

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Fri Jun 17, 2005 6:18 pm

Hi Karen,
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1851 cens 597 (514) Ed 16 p 13 (Kilmarnock)
Murray's Land, Back Lane.
Jas. McINTOSH, head, marr, 35, muslin weaver
Jean McINTOSH, wife 35, housewife
Adam McINTOSH, son 6, scholar
Jean McINTOSH, daur 3mos, -----
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1861 cens 597 Ed 4 p 30 (Kilmarnock)
18 Back St.
Jane McINTOSH, head, widow, 40, ------
Adam McINTOSH, son 17, app. baker
Marion McINTOSH, daur 10, scholar
Jane McINTOSH, daur 7, scholar
James McINTOSH, son 4, scholar
Charles McINTOSH, son 1, ------

[All are born Kilmarnock, AYR]
--
Jack

karenmcc · Post by **karenmcc** » Fri Jun 17, 2005 11:27 pm

Hi and thank you for your replies.

I thought that would be the case with Jeans mother. Annette, I would really appreciate that look up, as the earliest I will be getting to a LDS centre is 2008 when my youngest son starts preschool (my list of things to look up should be nice and long by then).

Thank you Jack for the census info. There is a couple of marriages for Adam McIntosh in the IGI that kept jumping out at me (possibly because my oldest sons name is Adam). I will now follow these up.

I have also found James (the father) death register. I have uploaded this into the gallery as I am having trouble making out the his mothers maiden name. I am thinking it could be McQuater. If this is correct, I have found, John McIntosh m Margaret McWatters 20 aug 1803 Ayr, in the IGI. Does this look like a match?

http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayi ... p?pos=-172

Thanks everyone
Karen McCubbin

Post by **AndrewP** » Fri Jun 17, 2005 11:42 pm

Hi Karen,

I would go along with McQuaters, and as you say that is a good match for McWatters.

All the best,

Andrew Paterson

karenmcc · Post by **karenmcc** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 9:38 am

Thanks Andrew. It's good to have a second opinion. I thought mayby I was making it McQuaters to fit the marriage I found.

Karen McCubbin

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:56 pm

Hi Karen,

I've edited my previous post to include the details. It looks like the same family in both censuses - James' occupation as muslin weaver 1851, and the address in 1861 is the same as his 1859 DC.
And there is only one Adam McIntosh in all Ayrshire 1861 - the 17yr old with mother Jane.

Jack

karenmcc · Post by **karenmcc** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 12:04 am

Thanks for those additions Jack,

There seems to be some inconsistancies with the girls names, doesn't there? I know the 1871 one is right. Jeannie McGibbon is Marions daughter. But Jean from the 1851 seems to change into Marion. Then there's Jane in the 1861 one who seems to then be Anny. Mayby they used Pet names?

Haven't been back on SP, yet, but had a look for info for Adam on IGI and BMD exchange and the two kilmarnock marriages (1865 &1871) may both be him. Found a Margaret McIntosh d22 Marc 1869, Daught of John McQuiston & Janet McKie.

Anyway, shall keep looking.

Karen McCubbin

StewL · Post by **StewL** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 2:55 am

Although this is just adding to what has already been said, I would also go for McQuaters, which could easily be interpreted as McWatters, and depending on the level of literacy, or perhaps because of the circumstances, would not have been noticed by the family or whoever registered the death.

TalkingScot.com

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