help needed seeking gran alice dick.....

jamesmcvey · Post by **jamesmcvey** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:24 pm

trying to trace dob and b/cert for gran alice Mcinness m s Dick only clues i have are marriage cert which states she married my grandad Hector Mcinness in 1922 at Guthrie memorial church Calton Alices adress at time off marriage was 56 East Rose st Glasgow Hectors adress was 14 Market st Calton on M cert there parents are given ass hectors parents John Mcinness baker journyman mother Catherine Mcinness m s McaulyAlices parents father David Dick clothlapper deceased at time off marriage mother Margaret Dick now Turnbull m s Wright Alice was aged 21 at date off marriage and Hector 20 marriage was on Jan 1922 that would have ment they were born about 1901 b/c d/c on hector has been traced but Alice is like nonexistin av tried in person at Edinburgh for birth or death trace no trace i also tried Belfast no trace think they split upp at some point and Alice moved too Edinburgh or Fife area and had another daughtr called Alice any help much appreciated ps all above adresses are glasgow area

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 3:02 pm

Hi James
I had a quick look on SP and these 4 Alice Dicks turned up:

1 1904 DICK ALICE, F, HUTCHESONTOWN GLASGOW CITY LANARK 644/11 1533

2 1904 DICK ALICE, F, ST ANDREW DUNDEE CITY ANGUS 282/04 0965

3 1904 DICK ALICE MARY RITC, F, MAINS ANGUS 307/01 0080

4 1895 DICK MARGARET ALICE, F, BLYTHSWOOD GLASGOW CITY LANARK 644/07 0172

However, there is also one Alison:
1899 DICK ALISON WRIGHT F DUNFERMLINE FIFE 424/00 0215
who I think looks worth following up given her middle name?

I looked from 1895 - 1904. I have several marriage records where the bride has "knocked a bit" off her age so was trying to take this into account. I take it you have seen all of the above? I've not looked at them as as I'm bit short of credits and trying to make them last! But you may have checked all these out already?

I'm interested in your Alice Dick as I have Dicks in my tree, David is a "family" name and "my" Dicks have connections with both Fife and Midlothian where you think your Alice may have ended up. Do you know anything more about your David Dick?

Best wishes
Lesley

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 3:16 pm

Hi again James
Couldn't resist burrowing deeper. Wave certain names around in front of me and its hopeless...

Anyway I looked for a marriage of David Dick to a Margaret Wright but nothing there. However, there is a marriage of a David Dick to an Alison Wright, High Church, Glasgow City in 1862 which is interesting....if a bit earlier than I thought it would be so maybe its a bit off track? also his occupation doesn't quite add up - this one's a mason, so maybe they are nothing to do with yours.

...butif this David who married Alison is your David (a bit of cross checking would be required) then I'm familiar with his parents James Dick and Isabella Roxburgh and can give you some info on the family.

As an interesting after thought: I coudn't help but check a death of an Alison Dick, other surnames, Hunter & Wright, who died in Dunfermline 1914 aged 76 - she is the same one who was married to David Dick above, and her father was a weaver. Interesting that she should be making the same west to east movement that you thought your younger Alice had made.

The dates still bother me on this one though - m. 1862, dau. born 1899? Not impossible but stretching it a bit.

Ahh, its hopeless, can't resist. Checked birth of the Alison born Dunfermline and it appears the above parents do not belong to her - parents given as David Dick, cloth lapper, and Margaret ERSKINE.

The one Alison Dick born 1899 DUNFERMLINE FIFE looks to be yours!!
and a David Dick married a Margaret Erskine in 1895 Dunfermline which looks hopeful.

And in the ramble I've found a couple of my lot too!!

Best wishes
Lesley

JustJean · Post by **JustJean** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 3:37 pm

Hi James

....and welcome to TalkingScot! I took a different approach and searched for ALI* DICK aged 0-5 anywhere in the 1901 census hoping to come up with a list of possibles. The list is quite short....only one contender. I think Lesley has given you the right direction to go in....Dunfermline it is!

Best wishes in your continued searching!

Jean

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 4:19 pm

Arggh
My head is spinning now...but:

David Dick the cloth lapper who married Margaret Erskine 1895. - His parents are David Dick (mason) and Alison Dick m.s. Wright.

David Dick (mason) and Alison formerly Hunter, m.s. Wright, were married 1862 High Church Glasgow. - his parents are James Dick (mason) and Isabella Roxburgh.

So, it does all tie in with the Dick family that I know.

Grief. Got there in the end.
Hope this is some help to you James and I've not confused you too much. I certainly managed to confuse myself in the middle there somewhere!

Best wishes
Lesley

jamesmcvey · Post by **jamesmcvey** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 4:27 pm

hi lesley thanks for a speedy and helpful reply Alice dick 1899 looks promising unfortunaly av no furthe info on G granda david dick only he was deceased in 1922 regards james

JustJean · Post by **JustJean** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 4:39 pm

Hi James

With the info that you have now you can go to ScotlandsPeople website and search for the DC of David DICK. Use a window of 1901 to 1922 since you know he was alive on the 1901 census and dead by 1922. If you narrow up the search area to Dunfermline (location in 1901 census)...you'll have no problem finding him....and then confirming his parents names and whether they were living or dead at the time of his death...and then you can continue.....

Best wishes
Jean

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 4:48 pm

James

If you check out the following on SP you should be able to get more info on your grandfather:
Marriage:
1895 DICK DAVID & ERSKINE MARGARET, DUNFERMLINE, FIFE 424/00 0171

Best wishes
Lesley

jamesmcvey · Post by **jamesmcvey** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 4:48 pm

Hi jean many thanks Regards james

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 5:11 pm

This looks like them in the 1881:

Dwelling: 49 James Place
Census Place: Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203520 GRO Ref Volume 424 EnumDist 13 Page 31
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
David DICK M 39 M Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Mason Empl 4 M & 1 B
Allison DICK M 42 F Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland
Rel: Wife
James DICK 17 M Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Mason Appce
Ann DICK 15 F Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Occ: Linen Factory Weaver
John DICK 14 M Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Grocer Appce
David DICK 7 M Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Alison DICK 4 F Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Malcolm DICK 2 M Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland
Rel: Son

Best wishes
Lesley

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