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jillwelsh
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Post by jillwelsh » Sun Oct 23, 2005 8:24 pm

I am attempting to find out more about my 3xgt-grandmother Mary McMillan. She married Alexander Rodger, Engineer on 28/11/1841 in East Greenock and died aged 48 in High Street, Dumbarton in 1863 - her parents names on her DC were given as Alexander McMillan and Janet McIntosh.

I have just found on Freecen 1841

St James St, Greenock
McMillan, Donald M 30 Boiler Maker Journeyman Outside County
McMillan, Mary F 26 Outside County
McMillan, Catherine F 1 Renfrewshire
Rodger, Alexr. M 26 Engineer Journeyman Outside County
McGouw, Arch M 20 Boilermaker Journeyman Outside County

The IGI has a Donald McMillan marrying a Mary Cameron in East Greenock on 2/9/1838 but I can't find any record of a Catherine McMillan born in Renfrewshire in 1840ish.

Was the relationship to the head of the household not given in 1841?

The only things that don't add up with this is that I know that Alexander Rodger was born in Erskine, which would be in the county of Renfrewshire, in 1810.

I presumed that the Mary mentioned in the freecen above would have been Donald's wife as there is a one year old child in the household but I suppose she could have been his sister with an illegitimate child.

Aargh - I'm losing the place on this one! Any help gratefully received.

Jill
Researching:
Greenock/PG - Rodger, Conner, Greer, Moles, McFarlane, McKellar, Peacock
Stevenston/Saltcoats - Welsh, Montgomerie, Cockburn
Various - Riddell, Leel, Sievewright, Thom, Sellar, Strathearn, Smith

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Post by LesleyB » Sun Oct 23, 2005 9:37 pm

Hi Jill
Was the relationship to the head of the household not given in 1841?
Its a great pity, but , alas, no. I think it can be very difficult to work out what is going on in a household in the 1841 because of this, especially if, as sometimes happens, you are not 100% sure you have the right family. They clearly had no thought for us at all!! :lol:


Best wishes
Lesley
Researching:
Midlothian & Fife - Goalen, Lawrie, Ewart, Nimmo, Jamieson, Dick, Ballingall.
Dunbartonshire- Mcnicol, Davy, Guy, McCunn, McKenzie.
Ayrshire- Lyon, Parker, Mitchell, Fraser.
Easter Ross- McCulloch, Smith, Ross, Duff, Rose.

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Re: Stuck!

Post by nelmit » Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:44 pm

jillwelsh wrote:I am attempting to find out more about my 3xgt-grandmother Mary McMillan. She married Alexander Rodger, Engineer on 28/11/1841 in East Greenock and died aged 48 in High Street, Dumbarton in 1863 - her parents names on her DC were given as Alexander McMillan and Janet McIntosh.

I have just found on Freecen 1841

St James St, Greenock
McMillan, Donald M 30 Boiler Maker Journeyman Outside County
McMillan, Mary F 26 Outside County
McMillan, Catherine F 1 Renfrewshire
Rodger, Alexr. M 26 Engineer Journeyman Outside County
McGouw, Arch M 20 Boilermaker Journeyman Outside County

The IGI has a Donald McMillan marrying a Mary Cameron in East Greenock on 2/9/1838 but I can't find any record of a Catherine McMillan born in Renfrewshire in 1840ish.

Was the relationship to the head of the household not given in 1841?

The only things that don't add up with this is that I know that Alexander Rodger was born in Erskine, which would be in the county of Renfrewshire, in 1810.

I presumed that the Mary mentioned in the freecen above would have been Donald's wife as there is a one year old child in the household but I suppose she could have been his sister with an illegitimate child.

Aargh - I'm losing the place on this one! Any help gratefully received.

Jill
Hello Jill,

Mary's age does match the above although it still doesn't prove anything.

MARY MCMILLAN
Female

Christening: 16 APR 1814 Kingarth, Bute, Scotland

Parents:
Father: ALEXANDER MCMILLAN Family
Mother: JANET TOSH


This doesn't help except to show Mary isn't at home with her parents and sister in 1841 as taken from FREECEN.

Piece: SCT1841/555 Place: Kingarth-Bute Enumeration District: 1
Civil Parish: Kingarth Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 1 Page: 10
Address: Village Of Kilchattan Bay


Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MCMILLAN Alexander M 50 Hand Loom Weaver Bute
MCMILLAN Janet F 50 Bute
MCMILLAN Catherine F 15 Bute


Annette M

jillwelsh
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Post by jillwelsh » Mon Oct 24, 2005 12:09 pm

Thanks Annette.
Jill
Researching:
Greenock/PG - Rodger, Conner, Greer, Moles, McFarlane, McKellar, Peacock
Stevenston/Saltcoats - Welsh, Montgomerie, Cockburn
Various - Riddell, Leel, Sievewright, Thom, Sellar, Strathearn, Smith

Andy
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Post by Andy » Mon Oct 24, 2005 2:21 pm

Either DWWebster's pal, Cassie, has a great deal of info on these families or someone else on this board.

I've definitely "Done" this lot for someone else years ago. There were only a few Rodgers families in the area at that time and the "West End" lot came from two different families both probably starting out in Erskine much earlier.
Searching for Keogh, Kelly, Fitzgerald, Riddell, Stewart, Wilson, McQuilkin, Lynch, Boyle, Cairney, Ross, King, McIlravey, McCurdy, Drennan and Woods (to name but a few).

Also looking for any information on Rathlin Island, County Antrim, Ireland.

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Post by DavidWW » Mon Oct 24, 2005 3:16 pm

Jill

Suggest you email Catherine on catherinemmurray@comcast.net

David

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Post by CatrionaL » Mon Oct 24, 2005 3:35 pm

Andy wrote:There were only a few Rodgers families in the area at that time and the "West End" lot came from two different families both probably starting out in Erskine much earlier.
Hullo Jill

When I saw Andy's post thought it might be worthwhile sharing this information. One of my Erskine BLAIRs, Elizabeth, married a John RODGER, in 1816, but haven't yet found an Alexander among them. However I'll keep my eyes skinned.

All the best with your research.

Catriona

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Post by Guest » Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:34 am

Hello David & Andy,
Just to let you know - Jill and I are not ignoring each other. We tried a year or more ago to connect our Rodger crews and could not do it. Some things were close, but we each have enuf information to know the differences.
The Alexander in my line was born in Greenock in 1800 and was a blockmaker. I have connected with his ggg granddaughter in Melbourne.
And while I am here - I have thanked you both privately for all your help. I will take this opportunity to now do it publicly. Your help is greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Catherine

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Post by Andy » Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:23 pm

Yes, I had a feeling it was the wrong Rodgers for Catherine but I have also done the other line for someone on the old board.

If I get the chance I'll look through my notebooks, unfortunately I get through about two a week and we're talking at least two years ago! So I don't think it'll be an easy find.

May be easier to retrace up at the Watt (if I ever get the chance, I seem to spend about a fortnight a week in the car taxiing my daughters about).
Searching for Keogh, Kelly, Fitzgerald, Riddell, Stewart, Wilson, McQuilkin, Lynch, Boyle, Cairney, Ross, King, McIlravey, McCurdy, Drennan and Woods (to name but a few).

Also looking for any information on Rathlin Island, County Antrim, Ireland.

jillwelsh
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Post by jillwelsh » Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:56 pm

Hi Andy & Catherine

Andy, it was me who you helped on the old SP discussion group on the Rodger line. I was now trying (unsucessfully so far) to go down the McMillan one.

All the best

Jill
Researching:
Greenock/PG - Rodger, Conner, Greer, Moles, McFarlane, McKellar, Peacock
Stevenston/Saltcoats - Welsh, Montgomerie, Cockburn
Various - Riddell, Leel, Sievewright, Thom, Sellar, Strathearn, Smith