Cap Badges

[frances]

Need help in finding out what the 4th Queens Company Volunteer Rifle Brigade raised in Corstorphine 1860s cap badge would have been.

Has been suggested that it was the three hunting horns of the Forrester family but can find no reference to this.

Any help appreciated.

Frances

[Currie]

Hello Frances,

Not having much luck with this.

The Edinburgh Volunteer Rifle Regiment started with eight companies but soon grew to over 20. Each company was to consist of not more than 100 men. The 4th, University Company, chiefly composed of students at the University of Edinburgh, but open to all resident in the city who have been matriculated students of any university.

See bottom of first column this page of the Glasgow Herald, 28 June, 1859.. https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=B ... %2C8193678

According to Records of the Scottish Volunteer Force, a badge, different for each company, was worn on the cap and pouch-belt.
https://archive.org/stream/recordsofsco ... 6/mode/2up

When you google for a badge a couple are found but nothing to indicate they belongs to a particular company, so perhaps they dropped the individuality and these were later ones. If only made for a company of 100 men they would be a rare item today. http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from= ... 5573.m1684

If you have no luck here you could try the British Badge Forum. http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/ or maybe contact the University of Edinburgh to see if they can help.

SCRAN has a photograph for sale but cannot tell if resolution high enough to study their badges. Headgear appears to be the Shako, so 1862-75. http://www.scran.ac.uk/database/record. ... -499-158-C

Hope that helps,
Alan

[Currie]

University Arms http://www.ngw.nl/heraldrywiki/index.ph ... _Edinburgh

Here's a description from The Scotsman, (Edinburgh) 20 Aug 1860.

Each Company has a distinctive badge, worn in front of the cap, which may be briefly noticed as follows;-- 1st Company, Arms of the Faculty of Advocates; 2d Company, shield with the City Arms; 3d Company, W.S. Arms, with a crown above the shield; 4th Company, University Arms; 5th Company, S.S.C.'s Arms (sword and balance, surmounted by a crown, with the motto, "Pro jure, pace et fiducia”); 6th Company, Accountants' Arms, with lion rampant; 7th Company, cornucopia filled with money, with two rifles crossed, surrounded by a garter, with the motto, “pro patria”; 8th Company, City Arms; 9th Company, City Arms, with supporters; 10th Company, Royal Arms, with Scotch quarterings; 11th Company, City Arms, with supporters and crest; 12th Company, Scottish Star of the Order of the Thistle, with the Cross of St. Andrew, and the motto “In Defence”; 13th Company, City Arms, with supporters,; 14th Company, City Arms; 15th Company Arms of the Edinburgh Merchant Company; 16th Company, (not fixed); 17th Company, Arms of Merchant Company; 18th Company, The City Arms, with crossed batons behind;

The badge of the two Highland Companies was a Scotch Thistle, with the Ossianic motto, “Na sir's na seachain an cath”; (Neither seek nor shun the fight.)

Alan

[Currie]

A bit more https://www.dnw.co.uk/auction-archive/p ... 0&limit=80


672
Company Shako/Glengarry Badges 1st Edinburgh RVC, three very rare items, the first in blackened die stamped brass to No. 5 Company (Solicitors in the Supreme Courts) featuring a QVC over a shield bearing the balance of Justice and motto scroll below ‘Pro Jure Pace Et Fiducia’, two loop fasteners; the second in die stamped silver plate or unmarked silver for No.7 Company (The Bankers) features a circular strap ‘Pro Patria’ with interwoven muskets and in the centre a cornucopia, two loop fasteners; the third item in die stamped bronzed brass is for No. 4 Company (The University) and features a QVC over a shield bearing the university arms and motto scroll below ‘Acad. Jac. Vi. Scot. Reg. Ed’, two loop fasteners, excellent condition (3) £300-400

Alan

[frances]

Alan,

Thank you so much for all the information.

Cheers

Frances