Where to go next ????? .....

maclorr · Post by **maclorr** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 3:07 pm

Hi all,

I didn't think I'd be needing your help so soon.
I'm so disappointed !

I've been waiting with baited breath for what I thought was a marriage certificate from SGRO, but turns out to be an extract from the Register of Proclamations of Banns and marriages, and thus doesn't show parents of bride and groom !!

I have been trying to trace my hubby's GGGGG Grandparents but now have hit the proverbial brick wall.

I have Archibald Mclellan b circ 1817 and Christina McQuistan b circa 1819 listed as parents of Neil mcLellan b 1843, on his marriage certificate ( to Catherine McLellan(McLellan is maiden name also)

Archibald and Christina were married in West Greenock in 1843.

I can't seem to find them on any censii and not sure if I'm looking in the right places !!

Any ideas ???

Cheers

maclorr

Post by **HeatherH** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 3:26 pm

Hello maclorr,
Welcome to Talking Scot.The Statutory records for scotland didn't start until 1855 (1837 for England and 1864 for Ireland)Anything before these dates will be found in the Old Parish Records which ,as you have found out , do not have as much information as a cert from 1855 and onwards.It seems there was no set form to recording the Births(christenings) and Marriages (which is why they decided to do something about it in 1855) some entries will have only a wee note of a name or names and the date. Others may have more information.I think the next step would be to look for your rellies in the 1851 census and try and pick up some information there.
Happy Hunting,
HeatherH

sheilajim · Post by **sheilajim** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 3:27 pm

Hi Maclorr

Welcome to Talking Scot. It is early in the morning for me, but have you tried finding a death certificate for them, on Scotlands People. That would give you the information that you need, if they died after 1855.

Regards

Sheila

Post by **HeatherH** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 3:30 pm

Hi again,
A quick look on the LDS family search shows Archibald McLellan and Christina McQuistan marrying 19 JUL 1842 West Or Old Parish, Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland .
HeatherH

Post by **HeatherH** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 3:38 pm

I had a look on the 1841 census and found a Christian McQuistan born about 1826 and living with an Agnes McQuistan and a family called Bucannan in Greenock .Perhaps this is your Christina.I didn't find any children for Archibald and Christina on LDS however.Did they stay in Scotland or perhaps move on?
HeatherH

maclorr · Post by **maclorr** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 3:40 pm

Thanks Heather and Sheila for your replues.

I have actually got Archibald and Christina and family on 1851 census(found amongst my paperwork after my post !!)

living at 'Torandich' apparently a farm on Islay. It states they were both born in Kilchoman but I can't find their births...I will, as suggested try looking for their deaths.Maybe this will give me some new leads

Cheers again

maclorr

maclorr · Post by **maclorr** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 3:45 pm

Hi Heather,

I wonder ???

In the 1851 census, she is supposedly 32 years and 'Arch' 34...I know this isn't terribly accurate...but could ages on censii be out by that much ??

Lorraine

Caroline · Post by **Caroline** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 8:34 pm

Hi Lorraine,

Just wondered if you had seen this post?

http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/SC ... 1113314103

It looks like it might answer some of your questions and they are looking for relatives of your ancestor Neil!

Caroline

maclorr · Post by **maclorr** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:20 am

Hi Caroline, and WOW

They certainly are my McLellan's !!! right down to Christina McCoshan !!
This is where I had trouble because her surname on her son's marriage certificate is just that !

next step ...to get in touch with the poster !!!!! I'm so excited

Thank you all so much for your help.

A big cheers

maclorr

Post by **HeatherH** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 3:57 am

Hi Maclorr,
As for ages on a census our rellies lied about their ages just as people do today.Not to mention some may not have known their exact birth date to begin with or the people who did are dead and gone.(As many were unable to read and write they didn't jot it down anywhere)
I have a Jane McIlwee who states she was 19 on her marriage cert but some members of TS found her with her mum in the Kirkton Womans Home on the 1851 census making her Birth 2 years before.
Then there's my 2nd great grandfather who while his wife ages 10 years between each census he ages only 6 and later 4 years.Luckily the age on his death matches the age on his marriage and the birth on IGI.
The census is best used as a guide .Not everything is gospel.For the most accurate record pick the one closest to the event.
Happy Hunting,
HeatherH