CLYDE FISHING BOATS KY569 AND BF510.

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jim mccreadie
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CLYDE FISHING BOATS KY569 AND BF510.

Post by jim mccreadie » Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:35 am

Seeking any data and/or images of the following vessels which were owned and operated by my MURRAY (of Saltcoats) ancestors:

Vessel 1: "Isle of May" KY569 built Leith, 1896.
On the night of Wednesday, 30 September 1903, "Isle of May" KY569, owned by Messrs Murray and Co. of Saltcoats was involved in a collision off Tarbet, Loch Fyne with "Maggie Lauder". Both vessels belonging to Ardrossan, the "Maggie Lauder" was so severely damaged she sank in a few minutes, the crew being saved with some difficulty and landed at Ardrossan. This vessel is referred to as a "liner" which probably designates its method of fishing; ie. line and hook fishing rather than netting.

Vessel 2:
"Sunshine" BF510 built G. Innes & Sons, Portknockie, 1907. Wooden Steam Drifter, length 84ft. 1933 - 1939, owned by Mary Russell MURRAY of Saltcoats.

Regards and thanks.
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Post by Thrall » Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:46 pm

Hi Jim, if it should help; KY- Kirkcaldy, BF- Banff.

See: http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/u ... index.html for details of registration of fishing vessels and thus first home port.

Guid hunting,

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Post by Hugh Stevely » Thu Apr 26, 2007 8:25 am

Hi Jim G/day,

You may already have this info but here we go.

Single Ship Report for Sunshine--IN.NO 1112940 Name Sunshine year 1900 Builder Duthie Sons UK.

lINK2372 Ship design --Location of yard Aberdeen Yard NO-233

Keel launch date 5-12 00 Type Trawler


Not much on the next one yet.

Single Ship Report.

Isle of May ID-NO 1102208 ISLE OF MAY BUILT 1896 BUILDER HAWTHORNS BUILT LEITH yard N0 57.

if i get any more info or image will let you know.

Hugh.

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Post by jim mccreadie » Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:00 am

Hugh
Many thanks for that data which compliments what I already have. I would greatly appreciate anything else you may locate.

Thanks again.
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Post by Hugh Stevely » Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:55 am

Hi Jim putting up this data for all to see the Sunshine may have looked like one of these on image. could not find her on here.

Home Ports BF-Banff-Buckie-INS-Inverness-St-Stornoway. Aberdeen-WK Wick.

Zulus-Steam-Drifters.

http://glennmci.brinkster.net/mcibb/listcomp.html

On the links page have a look at Trawler Photo,s its up on Marine Data.

Hugh.

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Post by jim mccreadie » Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:35 pm

That's great Hugh. As I know the "Sunshine" operated out of either Saltcoats or Ardrossan during period 1933-1939, I have contacted North Ayrshire Local History in case they hold an image of the vessel.

Thanks and regards.
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BF510-SUNSHINE.

Post by Hugh Stevely » Sat Apr 28, 2007 9:42 pm

Hi Jim.

SUNSHINE-BF510.

Built of wood by Innes at the Cliff Portnockie yard NO-430- 1907- for W-H-Leask-Peterhead and-W-A-Slater Portnockie. and registered as BF510-BANFF.- -sorry about the mix up on the year built.

Dimensions-84-ft- Tonnage-80GRT-engine-16-inch compand engine by Mckie-Baxter Glasgow.

Now the History 1911 sold to -Richard Irvin and Sons and A-W-Slater-Portnockie.

1933 Olsens Alamanac Owner listed as Mrs Mary Russell- Murray-Saltcoats.

1939 Mercantile Navy list Owners listed as Mrs Mary Russell-Murray-Saltcoats -Manager J-Murray.

Requisitioned for war service 1915 -1915 Temporarily renamed Sunshine III.

Pennant number 2500 as an Anti-Submarine net Vessel-/Minesweeper fitted with a 6 pounder gun--Sorry to say after a job well done sold for scrap 1939. :( :)#

Hugh.

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Post by jim mccreadie » Sun Apr 29, 2007 3:58 am

Many thanks for that data Hugh. What with my MURRAYs and McCREADIEs (four Ardrossan brothers - William, Edward (my granpa) James and Peter; all Captains M.N. with James sailing with "Baron" Line), and your g-grandfather (is it?), one cannot help but wonder if they all knew each other eh?

Many thanks again Hugh.

Yours aye.
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Post by Hugh Stevely » Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:43 am

Hi Jim,

Sorry about the delay in getting back to you yes i think every one would of knew each other on the Seafaring side.

Some info for you if you have not seen it already. RE the



Sunshine" BF510 - wooden steam drifter, built by G.Innes and Sons, Portknockie in 1907. In 1910, her owners were listed as Slater & Leask, Portknockie while in 1920 she was owned by A. Slater and others. During period 1933 - 1939 , she owned by Mary Russell MURRAY (nee Robertson) and moved to Saltcoats.


There's a good series of books about the Steam Drifters .

Steam Drifters Recalled .
Portgordon to Portsoy" and "Whitehills to St. Combs" and I think there are a few more in the series covering all of Scotland possibly the entire UK.

The books are published by Joseph Reid , Enzie and David Williamson Cullen

Printed by Almac Print Ltd , Unit 4 Tyock Industrial Estate Elgin IV30 1XY

They cost £12 each and are roughly 150 A4 pages in size.

you may be able to get a photo Jim from the book hope this will help you in your search.

Orraverybest

Hugh.

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Post by jim mccreadie » Fri Jun 22, 2007 9:14 am

Thanks for that Hugh. I got some vessel info from an Icelandic gent on another site. Mary Russell MURRAY was my great-uncle John's wife. I'll have to ask my wee sister in Saltcoats to attempt to locate those books for me.

Thanks again mate.
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