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CLYDE FISHING BOATS KY569 AND BF510.

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:35 am
by q98
Seeking any data and/or images of the following vessels which were owned and operated by my MURRAY (of Saltcoats) ancestors:

Vessel 1: "Isle of May" KY569 built Leith, 1896.
On the night of Wednesday, 30 September 1903, "Isle of May" KY569, owned by Messrs Murray and Co. of Saltcoats was involved in a collision off Tarbet, Loch Fyne with "Maggie Lauder". Both vessels belonging to Ardrossan, the "Maggie Lauder" was so severely damaged she sank in a few minutes, the crew being saved with some difficulty and landed at Ardrossan. This vessel is referred to as a "liner" which probably designates its method of fishing; ie. line and hook fishing rather than netting.

Vessel 2:
"Sunshine" BF510 built G. Innes & Sons, Portknockie, 1907. Wooden Steam Drifter, length 84ft. 1933 - 1939, owned by Mary Russell MURRAY of Saltcoats.

Regards and thanks.

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:46 pm
by Thrall
Hi Jim, if it should help; KY- Kirkcaldy, BF- Banff.

See: http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/u ... index.html for details of registration of fishing vessels and thus first home port.

Guid hunting,

Thrall

Clyde Fishing Boats.

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 8:25 am
by Hugh Stevely
Hi Jim G/day,

You may already have this info but here we go.

Single Ship Report for Sunshine--IN.NO 1112940 Name Sunshine year 1900 Builder Duthie Sons UK.

lINK2372 Ship design --Location of yard Aberdeen Yard NO-233

Keel launch date 5-12 00 Type Trawler


Not much on the next one yet.

Single Ship Report.

Isle of May ID-NO 1102208 ISLE OF MAY BUILT 1896 BUILDER HAWTHORNS BUILT LEITH yard N0 57.

if i get any more info or image will let you know.

Hugh.

CLYDE FISHING BOATS KY569 AND BF510

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:00 am
by q98
Hugh
Many thanks for that data which compliments what I already have. I would greatly appreciate anything else you may locate.

Thanks again.

CLYDE FISHING BOATS

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:55 am
by Hugh Stevely
Hi Jim putting up this data for all to see the Sunshine may have looked like one of these on image. could not find her on here.

Home Ports BF-Banff-Buckie-INS-Inverness-St-Stornoway. Aberdeen-WK Wick.

Zulus-Steam-Drifters.

http://glennmci.brinkster.net/mcibb/listcomp.html

On the links page have a look at Trawler Photo,s its up on Marine Data.

Hugh.

CLYDE FISHING BOATS KY569 AND BF510

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:35 pm
by q98
That's great Hugh. As I know the "Sunshine" operated out of either Saltcoats or Ardrossan during period 1933-1939, I have contacted North Ayrshire Local History in case they hold an image of the vessel.

Thanks and regards.

BF510-SUNSHINE.

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 9:42 pm
by Hugh Stevely
Hi Jim.

SUNSHINE-BF510.

Built of wood by Innes at the Cliff Portnockie yard NO-430- 1907- for W-H-Leask-Peterhead and-W-A-Slater Portnockie. and registered as BF510-BANFF.- -sorry about the mix up on the year built.

Dimensions-84-ft- Tonnage-80GRT-engine-16-inch compand engine by Mckie-Baxter Glasgow.

Now the History 1911 sold to -Richard Irvin and Sons and A-W-Slater-Portnockie.

1933 Olsens Alamanac Owner listed as Mrs Mary Russell- Murray-Saltcoats.

1939 Mercantile Navy list Owners listed as Mrs Mary Russell-Murray-Saltcoats -Manager J-Murray.

Requisitioned for war service 1915 -1915 Temporarily renamed Sunshine III.

Pennant number 2500 as an Anti-Submarine net Vessel-/Minesweeper fitted with a 6 pounder gun--Sorry to say after a job well done sold for scrap 1939. :( :)#

Hugh.

CLYDE FISHING BOATS KY569 AND BF510

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 3:58 am
by q98
Many thanks for that data Hugh. What with my MURRAYs and McCREADIEs (four Ardrossan brothers - William, Edward (my granpa) James and Peter; all Captains M.N. with James sailing with "Baron" Line), and your g-grandfather (is it?), one cannot help but wonder if they all knew each other eh?

Many thanks again Hugh.

Yours aye.

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:43 am
by Hugh Stevely
Hi Jim,

Sorry about the delay in getting back to you yes i think every one would of knew each other on the Seafaring side.

Some info for you if you have not seen it already. RE the



Sunshine" BF510 - wooden steam drifter, built by G.Innes and Sons, Portknockie in 1907. In 1910, her owners were listed as Slater & Leask, Portknockie while in 1920 she was owned by A. Slater and others. During period 1933 - 1939 , she owned by Mary Russell MURRAY (nee Robertson) and moved to Saltcoats.


There's a good series of books about the Steam Drifters .

Steam Drifters Recalled .
Portgordon to Portsoy" and "Whitehills to St. Combs" and I think there are a few more in the series covering all of Scotland possibly the entire UK.

The books are published by Joseph Reid , Enzie and David Williamson Cullen

Printed by Almac Print Ltd , Unit 4 Tyock Industrial Estate Elgin IV30 1XY

They cost £12 each and are roughly 150 A4 pages in size.

you may be able to get a photo Jim from the book hope this will help you in your search.

Orraverybest

Hugh.

CLYDE FISHING BOATS KY569 AND BF510

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 9:14 am
by q98
Thanks for that Hugh. I got some vessel info from an Icelandic gent on another site. Mary Russell MURRAY was my great-uncle John's wife. I'll have to ask my wee sister in Saltcoats to attempt to locate those books for me.

Thanks again mate.