I am seeking to establish where in Glasgow some ancestors of mine were buried. They died in the Kelvin District as follows:-
William Huntly - Died 8th June 1887 at West End Park St, Kelvin, Glasgow
John Huntly - Died 8th Nov 1887 at the Western infirmary, District of Kelvin
Any help offered or advice to point me in the right direction would be much appreciated.
Peter Huntly
Burials in Glasgow
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Hi Peter
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I don't think there is any quick or easy answer to your query. They may be buried in the nearest cemetery, or they may not - it sometimes depends if the family owned a lair or if the family had come from somewhere else because sometimes folk were taken back to their home area for burial.
The Mitchell Library have many burial registers on microfilm, but these are not indexed, so starting with the dates of death you would just need to trawl through them. The Mitchell Library also have a large collection of Monumental Inscription books.
http://www.glasgow.gov.uk/en/Residents/ ... y_History/
Being well after 1855 it is less likley that they will show in any MI books, most of which concentrate on the pre-1855 period. However, it maybe an idea to contact Glasgow and West of Scotland FHS as there is a chance that they may have MIs for the area and sometimes later ones are collected but may be in unpublished collections.
http://www.gwsfhs.org.uk/
Another place to search may be the Wylie and Lochhead collections at Glasgow University Archives. Wylie and Lochhead were the "big" undertakers in the area for many years, so they were responsible for many funerals and of course, the funeral detail in the register would include the place of burial. http://www.gla.ac.uk/services/archives/
You can contact:
Cemeteries & Crematoria Registrar
20 Trongate
Glasgow
G1 5ES
Phone:0141 287 3961
E-mail: les@glasgow.gov.uk
- and I believe they will conduct a search on your behalf, but there is a charge made for this service, so best to find out what it will be - as far as I remember it is quite an expensive service.
Best wishes
Lesley
..and welcome to Talking Scot
I don't think there is any quick or easy answer to your query. They may be buried in the nearest cemetery, or they may not - it sometimes depends if the family owned a lair or if the family had come from somewhere else because sometimes folk were taken back to their home area for burial.
The Mitchell Library have many burial registers on microfilm, but these are not indexed, so starting with the dates of death you would just need to trawl through them. The Mitchell Library also have a large collection of Monumental Inscription books.
http://www.glasgow.gov.uk/en/Residents/ ... y_History/
Being well after 1855 it is less likley that they will show in any MI books, most of which concentrate on the pre-1855 period. However, it maybe an idea to contact Glasgow and West of Scotland FHS as there is a chance that they may have MIs for the area and sometimes later ones are collected but may be in unpublished collections.
http://www.gwsfhs.org.uk/
Another place to search may be the Wylie and Lochhead collections at Glasgow University Archives. Wylie and Lochhead were the "big" undertakers in the area for many years, so they were responsible for many funerals and of course, the funeral detail in the register would include the place of burial. http://www.gla.ac.uk/services/archives/
You can contact:
Cemeteries & Crematoria Registrar
20 Trongate
Glasgow
G1 5ES
Phone:0141 287 3961
E-mail: les@glasgow.gov.uk
- and I believe they will conduct a search on your behalf, but there is a charge made for this service, so best to find out what it will be - as far as I remember it is quite an expensive service.
Best wishes
Lesley
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Hi Lesley,
Thanks for your very prompt reply and all the useful info. I will follow these up and will let you know if I have any success.
Regards
Peter Huntly
Thanks for your very prompt reply and all the useful info. I will follow these up and will let you know if I have any success.
Regards
Peter Huntly
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Another place to try is the website http://www.memento-mori.co.uk/
It has details of gravestones from cemeteries around the country. Of course the place where your folks are buried may not be surveyed as yet, they may not have a gravestone or it may not be legible - but could be worth a try.
There is not cemetery in the Kelvin area as such, so they could be almost anywhere in the city.
It has details of gravestones from cemeteries around the country. Of course the place where your folks are buried may not be surveyed as yet, they may not have a gravestone or it may not be legible - but could be worth a try.
There is not cemetery in the Kelvin area as such, so they could be almost anywhere in the city.
Wilma
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Thanks Wilma.
Regards
Peter
Regards
Peter
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Glasgow pauper Graves
My Great Grandfather died at Barnhill Poorhouse in 1888 and my Grandfather died at 253 Duke Street. in 1923. I suspect that both would have been considered paupers. What would have been the closest cemetery that each may have been buried in.
I will be making a trip to Scotland soon and I want to check the burial records, starting with the most probable records.
Thanks
Dona
I will be making a trip to Scotland soon and I want to check the burial records, starting with the most probable records.
Thanks
Dona
Scotland: McNay, Paterson, McGowan, Morier, Mc*Knley*, Baxter, McKnight
NI: McKee, McG*impsey*, Doran, Crosson, Johnston,Crawford, Patterson
Eire: Bir*ch of Tipperary
England: Cheshire, Nantwich area: Church, Cope, Foden
Yorkshire: Rumford
NI: McKee, McG*impsey*, Doran, Crosson, Johnston,Crawford, Patterson
Eire: Bir*ch of Tipperary
England: Cheshire, Nantwich area: Church, Cope, Foden
Yorkshire: Rumford
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Hi Dona,
This may be of help re the Poorhouse. Your message prompted me to look for the Barnhill Poorhouse and the link below takes you to a Glasgow Discussion Forum which mentions where it is located and shows some photos when it later became a hopsital. Hope this helps.
http://discuss.glasgowguide.co.uk/Barnh ... t5228.html
Peter
PS: By the way I emailed the Glasgow Cemeteries & Crematoria Registrar on the 25th August and have yet to receive a reply. Does anybody have any experience of how long they take to reply?
This may be of help re the Poorhouse. Your message prompted me to look for the Barnhill Poorhouse and the link below takes you to a Glasgow Discussion Forum which mentions where it is located and shows some photos when it later became a hopsital. Hope this helps.
http://discuss.glasgowguide.co.uk/Barnh ... t5228.html
Peter
PS: By the way I emailed the Glasgow Cemeteries & Crematoria Registrar on the 25th August and have yet to receive a reply. Does anybody have any experience of how long they take to reply?
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Thanks Peter
I took a look at the site. Lots of great information and insight. Adds more fuel to the fire!
I took a look at the site. Lots of great information and insight. Adds more fuel to the fire!
Scotland: McNay, Paterson, McGowan, Morier, Mc*Knley*, Baxter, McKnight
NI: McKee, McG*impsey*, Doran, Crosson, Johnston,Crawford, Patterson
Eire: Bir*ch of Tipperary
England: Cheshire, Nantwich area: Church, Cope, Foden
Yorkshire: Rumford
NI: McKee, McG*impsey*, Doran, Crosson, Johnston,Crawford, Patterson
Eire: Bir*ch of Tipperary
England: Cheshire, Nantwich area: Church, Cope, Foden
Yorkshire: Rumford
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Re: Glasgow pauper Graves
Hello Dona,Dona wrote:My Great Grandfather died at Barnhill Poorhouse in 1888 and my Grandfather died at 253 Duke Street. in 1923. I suspect that both would have been considered paupers. What would have been the closest cemetery that each may have been buried in.
I will be making a trip to Scotland soon and I want to check the burial records, starting with the most probable records.
Thanks
Dona
If you don't already have them remember to check for poorhouse applications at The Mitchell Library when you're here.
Regards,
Annette
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Hi Dona
I think some poorhouses tended to bury in a particular cemetery.
Best wishes
Lesley
If paupers it is likely they would have been buried in "common ground", an area set aside in a cemetery for those could not afford to pay for a burial. Even though some common ground areas still have named lairs (e.g. section U, lair 19) and names recorded for the lairs, because these areas have no stones or markers, it can be very difficult to work out the exact spot of burial.I suspect that both would have been considered paupers. What would have been the closest cemetery that each may have been buried in.
I think some poorhouses tended to bury in a particular cemetery.
Best wishes
Lesley