Margaret Crosgrove calling

[Lorna Allison]

Would the member who asked me about Margaret Crosgrove ca 1850 get in touch please? Don't want you to think I am ignoring you.

Lorna

[MaryB]

Lorna think it was me, as I have Crosgrove in my family tree

[Lorna Allison]

Hello Mary

Sorry about this. I thought I had saved a private post so that I could look up my tree etc and then when I went to get back to you, I couldn't find my way in! Have no idea how to work that "inbox, savedbox etc". Same as I wanted to adjust my username a bit but in my profile area I seem to be able to change everything else but that. Don't worry any site organisers reading this - I know it's me. (The IT Crowd, Channel 4 on a Friday makes me laugh and writhe at the same time. "Is it switched on - AT THE WALL". Oh, yes, I remember it well!.)

Never mind - glad you got back to me. Not that I have any very swinging news. Our Margaret Crosgrove was born in Girvan ca. 1844 to David Crossgrove, weaver, and Maria ms Broadley or Aitken (!) but mainly Aitken and died 23 Jan 1903 in Maybole. Parents were both from Ireland, don't know where. The family moved to Crosshill, Ayrshire where father continued weaving, certainly for a spell , but when he died he was the Church Officer.

Margaret had an illegitimate son called David, who stayed on with Granny in Crosshill when his Mum married William Brackenridge and moved to Maybole. Did you know that in the late 1800s Maybole must have been chock a block with shoemakers? In his mid twenties David went to live with her when Granny died and Margaret's husband died.

Margaret's brother Thomas is our Crosgrove connection. He gave up helping with the weaving and moved to Glasgow where he and his wife became Grocers and Wine and Spirit Merchants in Rose Street (Florence St) Gorbals. I haven't worked out yet how they managed that since they were not exactly loaded - he had been a slater's labourer and she had been in domestic service. However, the family business lasted for almost 100 years.

Well, this doesn't help you much Mary. I think David Crossgrove, weaver, could of course have had other siblings who moved from Ireland to Glasgow. . . . .

Our Crosgroves lived happily ever after on the south side of Glasgow, except for one who landed up in Sorbie Wigtownshire.

Didn't mean to write a book. Sorry not to be more help.

Regards

Lorna

[MaryB]

Hi Lorna - sorry there is no connection. Mines are from Co Down, and moved to Glasgow sometime after 1858, I have yet to find them on a census

My gt granny moved to Greenock sometime after the 1881 census, and she had 2 brothers John and James, so far I have only found one of their births, but have managed to locate them on the 1881 census, both their parents having died by then,

I tried looking for the letter I received from Stuart Cosgrove, can't find it. I wrote to him c/o the BBC in Glasgow, and in turn he passed the letter onto his sister, who was researching the family history. I am sure his family of Cosgrove's were originally from Ayrshire

[Jack]

Hi Lorna,
Nothing of great importantance,
but if these are your family (from indexes) then seems Margaret was born abt 1838.
==
1851 cens 600 (485) Ed 8 p 30 (Kirkmichael)
David CROSSGROVE, 53
Mariah, 47
Mary, 22
Elizabeth, 20
Jane, 18
Henry, 15
Margaret, 12
David, 9
Thomas, 5
Rosina McDonald, 15 (possibly with the family)
&
1861 cens 600 Ed 8 p 23 (Kirkmichael)
David CROSSGROVE, 63, b Ireland
Mariah 55, b Ireland
Jean 26, b Girvan
Margaret 24, b Girvan
David 19, b Girvan
Thomas 14, b Girvan
==
Mary, what are the names & ages of those that might be in Glasgow 1861?

Ta - Jack

[MaryB]

Thanks Jack

Mary C(r)osgrove born 1858 2 bro's born James/John. Have a birth cert for James who was born 14th sept 1862 Hutchesontown Glasgow.

I found mary on the 1881 census (Co Down Ireland)
Found John 1881 census, listed as stepson to the below Rosie
Found James 1881 census - in HMP (prison)

Mary was born 1858 Ireland, so assume the family came to Scotland sometime after that, if James was born 1862 in Glasgow



parents

James C(r)osgrove
Ann C(rosgrove) nee McGuire

James (father)died 1874, have his death cert details (from a paid genealogist) as well as for Ann. James (father) lived with or married a Rose/Rosie Short after Ann's death

[Jack]

Hi Mary,
Looks like you're out of luck for 1861
The nearest family is this (all b Ireland), but mother isn't Ann.
--
James Cosgrove 30
Elizabeth 25
Mary 3
Edward 28
--
So unless in another County, it doesn't look like they were yet in Scotland.
It was a slim chance i know, but sorry to disappoint you.
I ended up searching for wee Mary with Ma*, C*, age 3yrs +/- 2yrs, born anywhere,
but still the only suitable in name was the above one.
Jack

[Lorna Allison]

Thanks Jack. That's great. Some more distant cousins hanging about out there.

Sorry not to be able to help Mary. Will try out Stuart Cosgrove.

Regards

Lorna

[MaryB]

Thanks Jack for having a look. Could be they arrived after the 1861 census then as james born 1862

[Hunter-G]

Hi Lorna:
Just joined Talking Scot. Seems like a great site.
Did a search on the forum for "Broadley" and came across your posting.
I have been researching my lineage and already have 30 Broadley individuals. As well some of the children have gone on to be called Bradley -dropping the "o". I was wondering if there were any connections. Almost to a last one, they are born in Lanark; Glasgow, Ayr, Milton, Govan, Partick.

Name Birth date Death date
Allan Broadley 1889
Bernard Bradley 17 May 1887 23 Oct 1914
Catherine Broadley 1855
Elizabeth Thorne Broadley 1845
Frances Anna Broadley 1847
Helen Broadley 07 Oct 1858
Helen Broadley 1897
Henry Broadley 1852
Hyland M. Broadley 1889
Isabella Broadley 1884
Jane McC Broadley 1890
Jane Morton Broadley 1843
John Broadley
John Broadley Abt. 1862
John M. Broadley 1886
John Robert Broadley 1848
Jonathon Broadley
Margaret Bradley 21 Aug 1865
Marjory Bradley 24 Oct 1860 29 Aug 1914
Mark Broadley 1850
Mary Bradley 11 Jul 1863
Mary Broadley 1900
Richard Broadley 1889
Richard Broadley 23 Nov 1856
Sarah Bradley Abt. 1850
Sarah Broadley 1894
Thomas Broadley
Thomas Broadley 1891
William Bradley
William Bradley
William Broadley 12 Dec 1736
William Broadley 07 Oct 1822 Abt. 1825
William Broadley Abt. 1826 14 Oct 1868
William Broadley 04 Mar 1827
William Broadley 13 Jan 1869
William Goldsmith Broadley 16 Sep 1845
William Thom Broadley 1887

Thanks for your perusal of the list.
Greg Hunter