brick wall revisited

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thomsos
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brick wall revisited

Post by thomsos » Wed Jan 02, 2013 3:06 pm

Happy New Year to all,
I was just wondering if anyone could have a look at my old post, it is a brick wall I just cant knock down, I thought maybe some new eyes who have joined TS may be able to help, the jist of it is -
thomsos wrote: I am looking for the marriage and death of George Williamson, he was married to Jane Peel, both their birth years are in dispute, they both appear on the 1861 Calton census, ages 31 & 30, which would make them born 1830/31, but Jane died 1904 age 62 which would make her birth 1842, can’t find George after 1861, their sons were born 1857 & 1860, his second son William died 1961, and it was his uncle John Williamson who was the informant, Jane remarried in 1870, help please
link to previous post below......thank you

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=6834&p=49951&hilit= ... son#p49951
Researching- Clark from Polmont, Wason from Dailly, Anderson & Williamson from Bridgeton, also Thomson, Sharp, Bryce, Gillen & Fairley

nelmit
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Re: brick wall revisited

Post by nelmit » Wed Jan 02, 2013 6:07 pm

I don't think they were ever married.

This looks like William's birth.

name: William Williamson Peel
gender: Male

birth date: 14 Jul 1860
birthplace: BRIDGETON,GLASGOW,LANARK,SCOTLAND

mother's name: Jane Peel

Later...............I see from your other post you found that.

Have you found a birth for wee George born about 1858? The only one I can find at the moment is to a George Williamson and Catherine Fairfall. They had quite a few other children but I'm struggling to find them on a census record together at the moment.

Regards,
Annette

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Re: brick wall revisited

Post by thomsos » Wed Jan 02, 2013 6:56 pm

I did wonder if they had married, but I'm not sure how to find George's birth or death, and I could not find George jnr's birth either(1857/58) only his death in 1922,
There also seems to be a few illegitimate births with Jane peel as the mother, so I think she may have been a bit of a girl! :oops: lol
Researching- Clark from Polmont, Wason from Dailly, Anderson & Williamson from Bridgeton, also Thomson, Sharp, Bryce, Gillen & Fairley

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Re: brick wall revisited

Post by AndrewP » Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:45 pm

There is an 1856 birth that shoud be of interest to you - John Williamson Peel, illegitimate son of Jane, in Bridgeton, Glasgow. That was followed by his death later the same year.

If you are looking for William Williamson Peel's 1860 birth on SP, you will find him as William William Peel. The SP index cuts all given names to a total of 15 letters including any spaces.

All the best,

AndrewP

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Re: brick wall revisited

Post by AndrewP » Wed Jan 02, 2013 8:11 pm

So the children that I see as Jane's are:

John Williamson Peel b 29-Aug-1856, d 1856
George Peel(?) (birth not found), (death not found)
William Williamson Peel b 14-Jul-1860, d 1861 (d registered as William Williamson)
Edward Peel b 01-Jun-1862, (death not found)
Elizabeth Craig Peel b 16-Aug-1864, d 1866

As there is no sign of George's birth or death certificate, then it is only an assumption that he was Jane's. Equally there is no obvious sign of him as a George Williamson.

The George Williamson that Annette mentions above (son of George Williamson and Catherine Fairfall) died in 1856, so was not George on the 1861 census.

All the best,

AndrewP

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Re: brick wall revisited

Post by nelmit » Wed Jan 02, 2013 8:36 pm

Hi Andrew,

This is the birth I meant - they had another George in 1858 -

name: George Williamson
gender: Male

birth date: 15 Apr 1858
birthplace: CALTON,GLASGOW,LANARK,SCOTLAND

father's name: George Williamson

mother's name: Catherine Fairfall

Regards,
Annette

thomsos
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Re: brick wall revisited

Post by thomsos » Wed Jan 02, 2013 8:47 pm

AndrewP wrote: As there is no sign of George's birth or death certificate, then it is only an assumption that he was Jane's. Equally there is no obvious sign of him as a George Williamson
I have wee George's first MC 1890 to Anne Major, his parents are Geo Williamson (dec), weaver and Jane Williamson, ms Peel, on his second MC 1890 to Eliz Anderson, parents are Geo Williamson and Jane Mclaren, formally Williamson, ms Peel, but on his DC 1922, his parents are George Williamson and Elizabeth Williamson, ms Peel.
Researching- Clark from Polmont, Wason from Dailly, Anderson & Williamson from Bridgeton, also Thomson, Sharp, Bryce, Gillen & Fairley

thomsos
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Re: brick wall revisited

Post by thomsos » Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:05 pm

I have found a Geo Williamson age 50, cotton weaver (unemployed) boarder, married, on the 1881 census, Lanark/Lanark, enum dist 10 Gro ref vol 648.
What does anyone think the chances of it being my George? ](*,) and is there any way of checking?
Researching- Clark from Polmont, Wason from Dailly, Anderson & Williamson from Bridgeton, also Thomson, Sharp, Bryce, Gillen & Fairley

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Re: brick wall revisited

Post by AndrewP » Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:46 pm

thomsos wrote:I have found a Geo Williamson age 50, cotton weaver (unemployed) boarder, married, on the 1881 census, Lanark/Lanark, enum dist 10 Gro ref vol 648.
What does anyone think the chances of it being my George? ](*,) and is there any way of checking?
  1. Does the birthplace given on the 1881 census match what you have seen on the 1861 census?
  2. Does the occupation on the 1881 census match that given on his death certificate? (later edit - yes, it does, from your post above)
  3. Have you found his wife elsewhere in the 1881 census without him?
These could give clues to increase or decrease the possibility of this being the George Williamson that you want him to be.

All the best,

AndrewP

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Re: brick wall revisited

Post by thomsos » Mon Mar 10, 2025 2:44 pm

Hi I’m revisiting this old post that I still cannot find any answers - ](*,) ](*,)

George Williamson born abt 1831 possibly Calton area

Think he marries Jane Peel although can’t find MC


1861 census -
George Williamson 31
Jane Williamson 30
George Williamson 3
William Williamson 9 Mo

Cotton weaver
Addeess - 24 Oswald Street, Calton,


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Name
George Williamson
Male
age 31
birth year 1831
Occupation Weaver
Residence Ozwald st, Glasgow
imprisonment date 1862
Birthplace - Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Prison Glasgow (Duke Street)

NRS Reference
HH21/32/18 p. 48


Jane Williamson/peel Widow Married Daniel Mclaren in 1870 so if I have the correct Jane then Geo must have died 1861-1870

Jane died 1904 both George and Daniel are on her dc.

I have searched all the Geo Williamson’s DC on SP and none of them look like it could be him!

Can anyone give me some advice where to go from here ?

Thank you
Sandra
Researching- Clark from Polmont, Wason from Dailly, Anderson & Williamson from Bridgeton, also Thomson, Sharp, Bryce, Gillen & Fairley