Illegible Name on Marriage Certificate.....

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Carolann
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Illegible Name on Marriage Certificate.....

Post by Carolann » Mon Feb 14, 2005 11:47 am

Hi There
I wonder if anyone can post me in the right direction about trying to read a name on a copy of a marriage certificate.
I have a copy of the marriage certificate from SP for my GGGrandparents -= Patrick/Peter McIlroy and Catherine Sherry who were married in Anderston in Glasgow on 04/02/1860. I can read his parents name Michael McIlroy and Margaret McIlroy (nee Fitzsimmons) and her parents are Patrick Sherry and Isabella Sherry (nee ..............). I have tried in SP under all sorts but unable to find anything. Can any of you good people advise where I could ask to try and decipher this name.
Thanks
Carolann
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Post by nelmit » Mon Feb 14, 2005 12:13 pm

Hello Carolann,

I'm sure if you upload your image to the gallery you will get lots of help.

Annette M

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Post by Carolann » Mon Feb 14, 2005 12:19 pm

Hi There
Thanks for telling me. I am new to this site and didn't know you could do that. I will try and upload it.
Thanks
carolann
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Post by Andy » Mon Feb 14, 2005 12:40 pm

The mother's name looks like Maffey = Massey. There is a Register of Corrected Entries addition for the marriage that may, or may not, help.

I looked for the family in 1881 to see if there were any clues:

Dwelling: 18 Stuart St
Census Place: Cumbrae, Bute, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203564 GRO Ref Volume 552 EnumDist 3 Page 8
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Peter MC ILROY M 49 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Fireman
Catherine MC ILROY M 40 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Wife
Peter MC ILROY U 20 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Mason
Mary MC ILROY U 18 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Occ: Domestic Servant
Michael MC ILROY U 16 M Millport, Bute, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Baker
James MC ILROY 15 M Millport, Bute, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Farm Ser
Helen MC ILROY 11 F Millport, Bute, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
Annie MC ILROY 9 F Millport, Bute, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
Hubert MC ILROY 5 M Millport, Bute, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
John MC ILROY 6 M Millport, Bute, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Phillip MC ILROY 2 M Millport, Bute, Scotland
Rel: Son
William MC ILROY 2 M Millport, Bute, Scotland
Rel: Son

Catherine died in 1903 but (unhelpfully) William didn't know either of his grandparents.

Failing the RCC have a hunt for Sherry marriages 10 years either side of 1860, there aren't that many, perhaps Catherine had a sibling or two who got married around the same time.
Searching for Keogh, Kelly, Fitzgerald, Riddell, Stewart, Wilson, McQuilkin, Lynch, Boyle, Cairney, Ross, King, McIlravey, McCurdy, Drennan and Woods (to name but a few).

Also looking for any information on Rathlin Island, County Antrim, Ireland.

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Post by Carolann » Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:00 pm

Hi Andy
Thanks for this info. Where can I view this register. I am just about to go onto SP and see what I can find, although I think I tried this but will check my previous searches. Thanks again.
Carol
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Image

Post by nelmit » Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:06 pm

I have my own thoughts on the maiden name but I'm not too great at deciphering.
Here is the link to the image if anyone else wants to have a go.


http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-70

Annette M

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Post by Carolann » Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:35 pm

Hi Nelmit

Go on what is your thoughts. I have tried Boffey, Coffey, and anything else but just can't get it.
Go on name your name please :lol:
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Re: Image

Post by Guest » Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:40 pm

nelmit wrote:I have my own thoughts on the maiden name but I'm not too great at deciphering.
Here is the link to the image if anyone else wants to have a go.

http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-70
Looks like "Duffey" to me. The "D" is the same as that used in the "(something) agent, Deceased" for James Stewart, a few lines directly lower on the page.
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Re: maiden name

Post by sporran » Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:48 pm

Hello Carol,


I do not think it is "D", since what dweezild refers to is actually "(d". I think that it is Massey, with the "ss" written in the old but common style of "ff", or it could actually be Maffey.


Regards,

John

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Re: maiden name

Post by Guest » Tue Feb 15, 2005 1:36 pm

sporran wrote:I do not think it is "D", since what dweezild refers to is actually "(d". I think that it is Massey, with the "ss" written in the old but common style of "ff", or it could actually be Maffey.
Certainly good possibilities there, (and "Duffy" contains no "e") - but every other capital "M" on the page has that distinctive initial curlique, and the central stroke in those "M"s is nominally parallel to the tall vertical strokes either side of it. That's not the case for this letter; it could even be a poorly-formed "Kl"...

YMMV, of course.

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