Am I onto something? Would like opinion

Parish Records and other sources

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AnneM
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Post by AnneM » Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:00 pm

Hi

The a in my surname definitely dates from the generation immediately preceding mine, i.e. my father and aunts, and many of them were named Mc rather than Mac on their BCs. Just to complicate matters my father retained the capital K, normally associated with the Mc version of the surname, while my aunt went for the lower case k to be consistent with the Mac! I think that for non official matters my grandfather may have used the Mac but I'm not sure.

I'm not clear why they made the change though I think my Dad thought it looked more Highland than the Mc, a bit rich since as far back as I can find the family came from Ayrshire.........where before that I don't know.

I regularly have to spell all aspects of my name though none is uncommon. However it's nothing to the confusion that my previous married name of Oswald caused to Scots, though it is a Scottish name.

Anne

PS I do know my NI number off pat. However I have been known to 'forget' my date of birth :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by emanday » Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:25 pm

Hi Anne,

Your comment made me laugh! My Dad made us learn our NI numbers off by heart :lol: He reckoned that this one number would be the most important one we would ever be given.

Time has, in my mind, proved him absolutely right.
[b]Mary[/b]
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McDonald or MacDonald (some couldn't make up their mind!), Bonner, Crichton, McKillop, Campbell, Cameron, Gitrig (+other spellings), Clark, Sloan, Stewart, McCutcheon, Ireland (the surname)

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Post by LesleyB » Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:05 pm

Hi Mary & Anne
learn our NI numbers off by heart He reckoned that this one number would be the most important one we would ever be given.
I ended up learning mine, once it became obvious it was going to be a regularly asked question many years ago and have never regretted it. It certainly saves a lot of scrabbling around in cupboards and drawers, with mutterings of "I know it is in here somewhere..."!

My son can quote his as well and he is usually awful at remembering things!! :lol: (and didn't even encourage him - he just amazed me one day when being asked what it was!)

Best wishes
Lesley

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Post by emanday » Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:26 pm

I can even reel off my late husband's Royal Navy number without hesitation. I'd addressed so many letters to him on BFPO mail you see :lol:

He retired from the RN in 1984 and passed away in 1997, but that number is embedded in my head.
[b]Mary[/b]
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McDonald or MacDonald (some couldn't make up their mind!), Bonner, Crichton, McKillop, Campbell, Cameron, Gitrig (+other spellings), Clark, Sloan, Stewart, McCutcheon, Ireland (the surname)

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Post by DavidWW » Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:22 am

sheilajim wrote:.....snipped......................
On the other hand it could be that our ancestors were illiterate and couldn't even spell their own names and the ministers did the best that they could. .......snipped.............
While (il)literacy most probably did play a part, even for those who were literate I believe that the great majority weren't particularly concerned about the spelling.

From contemporaneous documents, where I've come across spelling variations in my lines, most of those concerned are known to have been literate.

One aspect we haven't touched on relating to BMDs from 1855 onwards (incidentally we should now be writing "BMDCPs" in order to avoid the wrath of the PC police :!: :wink: ) is that it's far from uncommon on Bs and Ds to find a different spelling in the columns where the registrar has entered the surname info compared to the signature; and in M register entries not unknown to find a different spelling in the bride/groom column compared to the parents column. The specific request of the informant?, or a mistake on the registrar's part?, or just a neat illustration of society's opinion on the importance of the exact spelling of surnames.

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AM I ONTO SOMETHING: WOULD LIKE OPINION

Post by wini » Thu Mar 22, 2007 11:28 am

Sorry David,

But being dumb again. What does CP stand for?

And ****** political correctness. :? :? :?

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Post by Chris Paton » Thu Mar 22, 2007 11:35 am

CP = Civil Partnerships

Then there are the divorce records, adoption register, register of stillbirths, etc, etc....! It's going to turn into a long list....! lol :)

Chris
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Nas làidir 's nas motha na riaghaltas no rìgh.

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Post by DavidWW » Thu Mar 22, 2007 11:36 am

Civil Partnerships :!:

Both marriages and divorces, but just over 1 year after the legislation came into force, while there's been over 1,000 of the former, there's none of the latter so far ..................

David

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Post by DavidWW » Thu Mar 22, 2007 11:44 am

Chris Paton wrote:CP = Civil Partnerships

Then there are the divorce records, adoption register, register of stillbirths, etc, etc....! It's going to turn into a long list....! lol :)

Chris
Aye weel, but whereas the term BMDs was always understood to encompass divorce records, adoption register, register of stillbirths, etc., GROS are now going out of their way to refer to BMDCPs :!:

David

Knock knock!!,
Who's there?
CP police,
CP police who?,
.............................
(any suggestions?) :evil:
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Post by Chris Paton » Thu Mar 22, 2007 11:50 am

You can't beat a good old fashioned piece of jargon...! :)
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