What might this say?

[scooter]

Hello, all,

Having a rather brief flirtation with genealogical interests whilst the house is quiet (the kids have made a den under the dining room table) and am organising some SP downloads. Looking at the below I wondered if anyone might be able to decipher what it say after "John Wishart, Wright" and "Agnes Barr etc.? I know Anderston has been written above the word I'm interested in, I'm just wondering if the what is underneath has any currency?

Thanks in advance for anybody who can help,

Scott

[AndrewP]

Hi Scott,

My feeling is that it will be an area of Glasgow in Barony Parish. It looks like one area was written in, then changed to Anderston. It looks like it may start Cou...

All the best,

AndrewP

[Alan SHARP]

Hi Scott.

Hopefully Montrose Buddie [mb] will see your post and reply to you. He has a lot of experience with reading these and knows the area far better than I, as I live on the other side of the world. However I have researched quite a number of OPR's in both Renfrew and Lanarkshire, in that time frame, and consider myself lucky that some of the records kept there, used the same format of naming the sibling order, and not just saying "lawful child of...." This allows the researcher to know where the gaps are in their sibling searches. Perhaps the mother moved out of the immediate neighbourhood to have a child, where they could get better delivery support.

The full writing I read as:-
John WISHART, Wright [occupation] [XXX crossed out word] Anderston [replaced word] and Agnes BARR had their 1st child born 17th Feb. named William James [Christian name/s only given when Surname is in a leading column].. and Geo. Menzies Wit. [witness]

If you are familiar with the Hugh WALLIS site of IGI Batch Numbers, and search the Shire listings, you will see the parish church names of that area. I can not see one, that looks like a match for the name that has been scratched out. I thought it could have been "Camlachie" but when I enlarged the posted image, realized it did not fit, so searched the IGI without luck.

All the best,

Alan SHARP.

Edited: Capitalized occupation in error. Intended capitalizing SURNAME.

[nelmit]

Hi Scott,

My feeling is that it will be an area of Glasgow in Barony Parish. It looks like one area was written in, then changed to Anderston. It looks like it may start Cou...

All the best,

AndrewP

I feel it's got to be Cowcaddens but having only one d instils a bit of doubt. I can definitely see den _ _
at the end and agree with you Andrew about the beginning. I see the whole word as Coucadence.

The problem is you start seeing only what you want to see.

Regards,
Annette

[Montrose Budie]

I was moving towards Cowcaddens being the crossed out name, but there appears to be a capital letter in the middle, but then again, maybe it's a very flowery secretary hand lower case 'd'. See the 'd' in Anderston for the way the upper stroke curves over and back.

The 'replacement' is definitely Anderston.

mb

[scooter]

Dear All,

Many thanks for straining your eyes! I think I see 'Caus??e?tte?

I agree that having the number of the child is a real bonus, especially in the Barony records. So many baptisms aren't recorded/missing. I've been researching Lanarkshire Wisharts for years. This particular family had eight children that I know of, but only the first three appear in the records. They are: William (1802 - Anderston), Janet (1804 - Anderston), John (1806 - Anderston), Margaret (1811 - Glasgow), Agnes (1816 - Glasgow), Christopher (1818 - Glasgow), Thomas (1819 - Glasgow) & James (1822 - Glasgow). The Wishart surname in this line dies out with Thomas who departs in 1886 (Greenock)

I'm pretty convinced that John is originally from Cumbrae despite being recorded as being born in Lanarkshire in 1841.

Thanks again,

Scott

[nelmit]

I was moving towards Cowcaddens being the crossed out name, but there appears to be a capital letter in the middle, but then again, maybe it's a very flowery secretary hand lower case 'd'. See the 'd' in Anderston for the way the upper stroke curves over and back.

The 'replacement' is definitely Anderston.

mb

That's the way I see it David - the 'crossed out line' is running through the 'o' part of d and makes the over and back bit appear to be joined. If you imagine it without the line then you can see his flowery d.

Regards,
Annette

[paddyscar]

Hi Scooter:

It seems if the family are able to amuse themselves under the table for a while, we might see you here a bit more.

I also read it as Cowcaddens.

Frances

[scooter]

Hello,

Cowcaddens it is! I'm assuming this place is near, or part of Anderston? Thank you all so much for your help.

Frances - Yes, it's early days, but the shift from their folks being the constant source of entertainment has begun, and having three children in eighteen months is starting to have some benefits, in that they are the best of friends right now and enjoy each other's company enormously - whether it be under the table in a 'den', or on top having pretend tea parties. I even managed to paint the sash windows the other week!

Best regards,

Scott