John Lockhart / Elizabeth McKenzie-Were they married or not?

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frances
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John Lockhart / Elizabeth McKenzie-Were they married or not?

Post by frances » Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:00 pm

I am looking at the family of John Lockhart and Elizabeth McKenzie.

They had at least five children.
Mary, John, William, Phillis and Agnes
On at least two of the childrens' BC they are registered as illegitimate.

In the 1881 census (Edinburgh St Cuthberts) Elizabeth Mckenzie with two of the children Phillis Lockhart and Agnes Lockhart

In the 1891 census (Edinburgh George Squ) Elizabeth Lockhart now described as a widow with her daughter Phillis and a grandson.

On Elizabeth's DC 1894 she is described as Widow of John Lochart ---

My problem is I cannot find a MC for John amd Elizabeth, nor a DC for John. :?

Any help advice woild be appreciated.

Frances :)
searching for macrae family Black Isle/ Invernessshire

Kelly/Kelley/Burns family -Ireland /Lanarkshire/Edinburgh

Montrose Budie
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Re: John Lockhart / Elizabeth McKenzie-Were they married or not?

Post by Montrose Budie » Thu Feb 17, 2011 6:06 pm

Assuming that there wasn't a child after John, then they may never have married as his birth register entry show him as illegitimate.

I assume that you have the 1871 census showing the 44 yr old John, Mar[ried], with 4 daughters and 1 son, and an unmarried boarder, Elizabeth McKENZIE, 39 yrs old, Housekeeper !

John's death most probably shows up in 1879, reported by daughter Phillis, John's age exactly matching that shown in the 1871 census, and, critically, as married to Rachel MURRAY, a very good reason for his never having married Elizabeth McKENZIE !

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Re: John Lockhart / Elizabeth McKenzie-Were they married or not?

Post by nelmit » Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:57 am

And here is what looks like Rachel and John's son James in 1861 at Kinross while his mother is working in Glasgow -

James Murray 57
Margt Murray 55
David Murray 16
John Murray 14
James Lockhart 10 Grandson

Rachel is with wee James 'Lochart' in the household in 1851 at Kinross.

Here they are in 1901 at Dennistoun, Glasgow -

Rachel Murray 75 born Kinross
James Murray 48 born Kinross

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Annette

frances
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Re: John Lockhart / Elizabeth McKenzie-Were they married or not?

Post by frances » Mon Feb 21, 2011 9:31 am

Thank you MB and Annette for replies and information :D .

What a great site this is :) =D>


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Kelly/Kelley/Burns family -Ireland /Lanarkshire/Edinburgh