Born at sea .....

pinkshoes · Post by **pinkshoes** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 4:33 pm

I wonder if there's any way to find information on someone reported in 1861 census as "born at sea"? He would have been born about 1853, and after the entry in the census it says "British subject".

Thanks.

Pinkshoes

Alcluith · Post by **Alcluith** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 9:35 pm

If they were born on their way to the UK then chances are they might have been christened and that is the only likely record that you will have for them.

Why not post more information and see what come to light

pinkshoes · Post by **pinkshoes** » Wed Dec 28, 2005 1:13 am

Thanks Drew. Here's what I have :

The person I'm looking for is John Linn (sometimes the family is Lynn or Lunn) born about 1853. His parents were John Linn and Elizabeth Aitken.

I'm sorry I said earlier it was the 1861 census that gave him Born at Sea. In fact, in 1861 the family is in Larbert, Stirlingshire and the place of birth is Larbert for all of them. (No sign of the father John, and Elizabeth is somehow Margret.) Listed are :
Margret Lynn, Head, Widow, 33
William, Son, 11
John, Son, 9
James Aitken, Son 1 1/2

1871 census has them still in Larbert but this is where the "at sea" comes in:

Elizabeth, Head, Widow, 44 born Larbert
William, Son, 20, Range Mounter born Larbert
John, Son, 18, Iron Moulder born at sea (British Subject)
James Aitken, Son, 12 born Larbert

John Linn married Elizabeth Miller in 1876 and the 1881 Census shows them both in Larbert, again giving John's birthplace "At Sea".

Aside :James Aitken appears to be Elizabeth's son - birth cert says he's illegitimate and the birth was registered by William Lynn, brother. At the time of James' birth, William would have been about 10

but maybe there was no-one else to do it.

John Linn Senior, father of all but James Aitken, is an unknown quantity as yet - if census is correct he died before 1861, but after 1853'ish when John was born.

I'd love to know where they were going or where they'd been when John was born.

Any suggestions gratefully accepted.

Thanks
Pinkshoes

Alcluith · Post by **Alcluith** » Wed Dec 28, 2005 12:00 pm

Pinkshoes

there is a

JOHN LYNN
Marriages:
Spouse: ELIZABETH AITKEN Family
Marriage: 04 MAR 1849 Larbert, Stirling, Scotland

Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

M114854 1819 - 1854 1041953, 0102122 Film 6903158 Film

Sheet: 00

Would William Lynn not be John's brother. Do you know when John Lynn died probibly maybe just before James birth or it may have been William's child?

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Wed Dec 28, 2005 12:42 pm

Hi Pinkshoes

John Linn Senior, father of all but James Aitken, is an unknown quantity as yet - if census is correct he died before 1861, but after 1853'ish when John was born.

When the '51 comes online soon you should be able to find out a bit more about him with any luck. Have you had a look for his death? He might have lasted to 1855 (though if he's anything like my lot, he won't have done anythign so obliging!!

)

Best wishes
Lesley

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Wed Dec 28, 2005 12:55 pm

Just had a wee look on SP (with no credits, so "search" only. I'm sure you didn't used to be able to do this, but it seems you can search even if "penniless" now!)

1855-1861 there are 19 John L*n who died in Stirlingshire
1855-1861 there are 3 John L*n who died aged between 30-60 years in Stirlingshire.
1855-1861 there is 1 John L*n who died aged between 30-40 years in Stirlingshire. - No telling if it is him or not without shelling out though....BUT a play around with the possible letters suggests the name is Lis*n which doesn't look too hopeful...

Hope you find him
Best wishes
Lesley

pinkshoes · Post by **pinkshoes** » Wed Dec 28, 2005 6:56 pm

Thanks everyone for taking the trouble to look at this.

Drew yes that's the marriage in 1849. In terms of who registered James Aitken's birth - the entry states William Lynn, brother. Now I assumed that would be the brother of the new baby - might it be someone else's brother?

Lesley - the 51 census will be getting a battering from all sides! You're right - I might get something from that, as the father must have been alive to 1853 or so, when his son John was born (if indeed he was the father). I've trawled the deaths for John snr but I don't think any of the ones on SP are right. Of those listed, there are two John Linn's from 1855-1861 in Larbert but one's under ten and the other is over 70.

Thanks for all your help.

Pinkshoes

Post by **Tracey** » Wed Dec 28, 2005 7:24 pm

Did John senior have a brother William ?

pinkshoes · Post by **pinkshoes** » Wed Dec 28, 2005 8:36 pm

Tracey it's a possibility - especially as there's a son William, but I don't have John Linn's parents yet (or his birth/place). Think I'm up a gumtree for now

I'm sure someone posted on here about a rellie who registered a birth and gave the relationship as Aunt, but it was the child's mother's Aunt. Did I dream that? Anyway, if I'm not going loopy, thanks to the poster - it is a help.

Pinkshoes

Post by **Tracey** » Wed Dec 28, 2005 8:48 pm

Hi Pinkshoes

I have a birth at sea. She was born on the way to or from Bermuda in 1840,s. Her father was in The 42nd Highlanders and served in Bermuda. I have no idea of the situation of wives or families travelling (?) with soldiers but cant see any reason so far for her being there

This info was handed to me and i dont have any paper record of the birth but do have a copy of the fathers attestation which states he was in Bermuda.

Tracey