I´ve just noticed the site of a wedding (in fact two) of my McLeans in Glasgow, viz. St.Peters, Glasgow 1841, whom I assume to be brothers or at least cousins. Charles b.1818-9, clerk, and James, b.1815-16, tailor, were married on the same day 17/10/1841 and sailed over the Atlantic from Liverpool to New York on the "Roscoe", and received the same "family number".
Can anyone with an intimate knowledge of Glasgow state whether they might have been catholics? Googling seems to indicate that the first St. Peter´s catholic church in Glasgow was founded later.
I have so far not been able to connect these two Mcleans with one family, despite fairly rigorous attempts.
With thanks for any assistance,
Thrall
St. Peter´s, Glasgow .....
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Jack
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Re: St. Peter´s, Glasgow
Hi Thrall,
I can only go by what's in the IGI, but as James' marriage is an OPR extract,
then it would be more likely they'd be Church of Scotland?
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CHARLES MC LEAN
CHRISTIAN MUNRO
Marriage: 17 OCT 1841 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
[LDS submission]
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JAMES MCLEAN
CATHERINE GALBRAITH
Marriage: 18 OCT 1841 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
[Extract]
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Jack
I can only go by what's in the IGI, but as James' marriage is an OPR extract,
then it would be more likely they'd be Church of Scotland?
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CHARLES MC LEAN
CHRISTIAN MUNRO
Marriage: 17 OCT 1841 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
[LDS submission]
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JAMES MCLEAN
CATHERINE GALBRAITH
Marriage: 18 OCT 1841 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
[Extract]
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Jack
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Re: St. Peter´s, Glasgow
Hi again Thrall,
I don't know if this is relevant, but there's a wee mention here of the Highlanders' Memorial U.F. Church,
which was originally St. Peter's Free Church; but doesn't say when it was built.
http://www.highlandcathedral.org/histor ... morial.asp
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You can see its location on the NLS pages (National Library of Scotland).
http://www.nls.uk/digitallibrary/map/to ... plans.html
Select Glasgow [1857-8] or [1892-4]
Click on Centre Square,
Click on VI.10.9. (4th from right, 4th up)
St. Peter's is near the bottom right corner (across from the Gaelic Free Church)
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It was on the corner of Waterloo St & Mains St (now Blythswood Street).
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Jack
I don't know if this is relevant, but there's a wee mention here of the Highlanders' Memorial U.F. Church,
which was originally St. Peter's Free Church; but doesn't say when it was built.
http://www.highlandcathedral.org/histor ... morial.asp
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You can see its location on the NLS pages (National Library of Scotland).
http://www.nls.uk/digitallibrary/map/to ... plans.html
Select Glasgow [1857-8] or [1892-4]
Click on Centre Square,
Click on VI.10.9. (4th from right, 4th up)
St. Peter's is near the bottom right corner (across from the Gaelic Free Church)
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It was on the corner of Waterloo St & Mains St (now Blythswood Street).
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Jack
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Hi Jack, and thank you for that. I must confess to becoming confused here about some things. I queried the St.Peter´s church because of the name, but am quite satisfied there, it was only a minor stroke of spurious inquisitiveness, because the name St.Peter´s didn´t fit in with my calvinistic rearing.
The problem I am really trying to deal with now is that these two weddings, on subsequent days, are registered on the IGI variously as extracted or submitted. I have here the certificate for Charles and adjacent is James´,why is one an extract and the other a submission?
If what I have in front of me is a photocopied extract from OPR, are there dates not visible to me to the left on the page?
It may seem a stupid question, but is there an easy way to find out who submitted this marriage? I have previously found that info easily on other IGI submissions and made contact, but knowing batch no., and sheet no., what is the next step in this case. I´m obviously not finding the essential navigation info on the IGI site. I feel I´m really stripping in public with these presumably very easily answered questions.
Thanks again for your patience,
Thrall
The problem I am really trying to deal with now is that these two weddings, on subsequent days, are registered on the IGI variously as extracted or submitted. I have here the certificate for Charles and adjacent is James´,why is one an extract and the other a submission?
If what I have in front of me is a photocopied extract from OPR, are there dates not visible to me to the left on the page?
It may seem a stupid question, but is there an easy way to find out who submitted this marriage? I have previously found that info easily on other IGI submissions and made contact, but knowing batch no., and sheet no., what is the next step in this case. I´m obviously not finding the essential navigation info on the IGI site. I feel I´m really stripping in public with these presumably very easily answered questions.
Thanks again for your patience,
Thrall
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Hello Thrall
I have come across a few entries on IGI that have both extracts and submission. Without being unkind to the submitters, could it be a case of them trying to show the world what they found, and taken it as "their" find?
Or it could just be that they have another source, perhaps a family bible or such. But of course this is only speculation on my part, and the submitters might have a very good reason for their entries. Or at least they may have submitted the entry without actually checking what was already there!
A bit of a blether I know
I have come across a few entries on IGI that have both extracts and submission. Without being unkind to the submitters, could it be a case of them trying to show the world what they found, and taken it as "their" find?
Or it could just be that they have another source, perhaps a family bible or such. But of course this is only speculation on my part, and the submitters might have a very good reason for their entries. Or at least they may have submitted the entry without actually checking what was already there!
A bit of a blether I know
Stewie
Searching for: Anderson, Balks, Barton, Courtney, Davidson, Downie, Dunlop, Edward, Flucker, Galloway, Graham, Guthrie, Higgins, Laurie, Mathieson, McLean, McLuckie, Miln, Nielson, Payne, Phillips, Porterfield, Stewart, Watson
Searching for: Anderson, Balks, Barton, Courtney, Davidson, Downie, Dunlop, Edward, Flucker, Galloway, Graham, Guthrie, Higgins, Laurie, Mathieson, McLean, McLuckie, Miln, Nielson, Payne, Phillips, Porterfield, Stewart, Watson
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Thrall
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Hi Stewl,
Nothing better than a blether!
It bothers me that "someone" out there forwards info to the IGI that is extracted but leaves info from the same family, and same OPR page unmentioned. But then, presumably, he was researching the McLean-Munro line, or what? I´ve found mistakes on the IGI before, but this is a little different.
Perhaps my mind is not up to all the possibilities.
I would so like to make a connection between these two McLeans after all these years. Married together, at least on consequent days, travel to the US together, and as far as I can see, disappear, except:
Charles´ wife Christian dies in Glasgow 1878 and John, their son, after marrying in Glasgow 1867, dies in Buenos Aires in 1900, two years after his wife; thanks to Jeremy Howat´s incredibly informative pages, for their deaths. A lot of gaps, though, in between.
Anyway, plenty room for digging in later years!
Good hunting,
Thrall
Nothing better than a blether!
It bothers me that "someone" out there forwards info to the IGI that is extracted but leaves info from the same family, and same OPR page unmentioned. But then, presumably, he was researching the McLean-Munro line, or what? I´ve found mistakes on the IGI before, but this is a little different.
Perhaps my mind is not up to all the possibilities.
I would so like to make a connection between these two McLeans after all these years. Married together, at least on consequent days, travel to the US together, and as far as I can see, disappear, except:
Charles´ wife Christian dies in Glasgow 1878 and John, their son, after marrying in Glasgow 1867, dies in Buenos Aires in 1900, two years after his wife; thanks to Jeremy Howat´s incredibly informative pages, for their deaths. A lot of gaps, though, in between.
Anyway, plenty room for digging in later years!
Good hunting,
Thrall