mothers name.....

[margmo]

i have found jane laurie nee scott on the 1851 census at hobkirk, roxburghshire aged 81 years.
she would have been born circa 1769.
on the IGI i found a birth entry for jane scott , father john scott but no name given for her mother.
if i ordered the OPR for her could someone tell me if it would give me her mothers name or not.
regards
margmo

[Russell]

Hi Margmo

Actual images from the OPR are supposed to be on-line from SP before the end of this year so it might be worth waiting for a while so you can see for yourself exactly what they do say or visit your nearest LDS centre and order in the filmed copies for the parish. In terms of cost that would be the most economic route.
I doubt that the mothers name would appear at all insome of the OPR entries.
Most times the entry might say "Elizabeth -lawful daughter of John Begg of this parish"
If you are luckier and your relatives were quite prosperous, it might add John Begg - merchant.
Some records will include the mother's fore name and the real lucky dip ones actually mention her full name.
Before you take the plunge try to identify whether the surname and fore name of the father is common in that parish.( I generally use IGI for that)
If there are too many John Scotts there is no guarantee that you will have found the correct one.
We found that listing all children in that parish born to someone of that particular name gave us a long list of children which we could place in birth order and eliminate some because their birth/christening dates were too close. Using the naming patterns of the following generations we were able to separate them out into different lists and subsequent graveyard searches for MIs helped confirm this. We had lists of probables and possibles up to that point.

To get back to your original question its a case of how much of a risk are you prepared to take.

Russell

[AndrewP]

on the IGI i found a birth entry for jane scott , father john scott but no name given for her mother.
if i ordered the OPR for her could someone tell me if it would give me her mothers name or not.

Unlikely. Usually the IGI has the parents' names if they appear on the OPR.

All the best,

AndrewP

[margmo]

thanks russell & andrew for your help.
i'll wait patiently for the images to come on line from SP.

regards
margmo

[AndrewP]

Hi Margmo,

One other thought - did she survive at least another 4 years? If so, seek out her death certificate and see if the parent names there are any better.

All the best,

AndrewP

[StewL]

Here are a few Jane/Jean Scotts with a John Scott as father.

SCOTT, Jane Chr 1765 Scot Roxb Hawick
Fa: John SCOTT
Mo: Agnes TURNBULL
SCOTT, Jean Chr 1767 Scot Roxb Hobkir
Fa: John SCOTT
Mo:
SCOTT, Jane Chr 1769 Scot Roxb Hobkir
Fa: John SCOTT
Mo:
SCOT, Jane Chr 1770 Scot Roxb Cavers
Fa: John SCOT
Mo:
SCOTT, Jean Bir 1771 Scot Roxb Jedbur
Fa: John SCOTT
Mo: Pressilla CLARK
SCOTT, Jean Chr 1774 Scot Roxb Wilton
Fa: John SCOTT
Mo: Jean DOUGLAS

[momat]

Hi Margmo,

Wonder if this is her Family.

A Parent check on the IGI for Jane Scott born HOBKIRK ROXBURGH 14 October 1864
Brings up John Scott and Ann Reid as Parents
along with 2 Siblings
Anne Born 1867
Robert Born 1869

[margmo]

i spent hours & hours yesterday searching for any information on jean scott ( even missed coronation st. !!! )

i found at hobkirk , roxburghshire
father john scott - mother not named
jean 1767
jane 1769
eliz. 1778
janet 1774
janet 1765
william 1771
william 1772
george 1761

looks like there must have been 2 john scott's
jean married robert laurie 1792 in carluke.
robert laurie died 1843
will search for jean's death & hope she survived till 1855.

thanks to everyone for your help & advice
margmo

[StewL]

Hello Margmo

You probably have this information but in case you haven’t it’s from a parent search for Robert Laurie and Jean Scott. Just wish it was my Laurie lot. Don’t get thrown by surname spelling variations not unusual in the least.

LOURIE, Thomas
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 24 Feb 1794
Christening Date: 2 Mar 1794 Carluke, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Father: Robert LOURIE
Mother: Jean SCOTT

LAURIE, Mary
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 12 Apr 1796
Christening Date: 17 Apr 1796 Carluke, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Father: Robert LAURIE
Mother: Jean SCOTT

LAURIE, Martha
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 20 Apr 1798
Christening Date: 6 May 1798 Carluke, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Father: Robert LAURIE
Mother: Jean SCOTT

LAWRIE, James Brown
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 15 Mar 1800
Christening Date: 30 Mar 1800 Carluke, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Father: Robert LAWRIE
Mother: Jean SCOTT

LAURIE, Janet
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 23 Mar 1803
Christening Date: 27 Mar 1803 Carluke, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Father: Robert LAURIE
Mother: Jean SCOTT

LAURIE, Jean
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 10 Feb 1806
Christening Date: 23 Feb 1806 Carluke, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Father: Robert LAURIE
Mother: Jean SCOTT

LAWRIE, Elizabeth Brown
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 29 Jul 1808
Christening Date: 7 Aug 1808 Carluke, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Father: Robert LAWRIE
Mother: Jean SCOTT

LAWRIE, John
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 11 Jul 1811
Christening Date: 28 Jul 1811 Carluke, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Father: Robert LAWRIE
Mother: Jean SCOTT

LAWRIE, William
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 28 Dec 1813
Christening Date: 9 Jan 1814 Carluke, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Father: Robert LAWRIE
Mother: Jean SCOTT

[margmo]

thanks stewie

i have been very fortunate in tracking down my laurie / lawrie side & have this information you posted.
not contented i decided to dig deeper & find out a bit more about jean scott, wife of robert laurie.
unfortunately i may have hit a brick wall . she must have died before 1855 as i found no record of her death on SP.

thanks again
regards
margmo