Another deciphering question !.....

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Another deciphering question !.....

Post by Tracey » Mon Mar 06, 2006 12:07 am

Help needed please. Even magnified i cant work out this one.

http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayi ... p?pos=-429

1st column i can make out 1865 - Edinburgh and Church only
2nd column - what is Hyams proffession, looks like Tailor (?) and ..........
4th column - where did they live ?
5th column - fathers profession and mothers first name ?
6th column i can make out only a few words

Your patience is greatfully recieved :D
Scotland - Donaldson / Moggach / Shaw / Geddes / Sim / Gray / Mackie / Richards / Joel / Coull / Mckimmie / Panton / McGregor
Ireland and Scotland - Casey / McDade / Phillips / McCandle / Dinely / Comaskey + various spellings

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Post by LesleyB » Mon Mar 06, 2006 12:39 am

Hi Tracey
1st column 1865 - I can see
on the eighth
day of February
at 11 [something] Place Edinburgh
after banns? according to the terms of the Jewish Church
2nd column
Hyam Abrams Tailor and Cutter?
Batchelor 27
Sopia Joel, Milliner? Spinster 28
4th column - where did they live ?
19 South Frederick Street Edinburgh
5th column - fathers profession and mothers first name ?
Elias Abrams - can't make out profession
? Abrams m.s. Hyams
Moses Joel Minister of the Jewish Church (deceased)
Susan Joel m.s. Moses (deceased)
6th column i can make out only a few words I think it says
signed Abraham Harfield? no.6 Hill Place
signed Charles Lamont witness
3? North? Place
[initial] Magnus Whitby?? Mutly??
34 Cockburn Street Witness

1865 Febraury 13th at Edinburgh
? Registrar

Hope the above is some help!! :?
I'd contact SP for a clearer copy.
Best wishes
Lesley
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Post by Tracey » Mon Mar 06, 2006 12:43 am

Hi Lesley and thanks

Your eyes are brighter than mine tonight ! just cant see anything for looking so to speak :roll:

Tracey
Scotland - Donaldson / Moggach / Shaw / Geddes / Sim / Gray / Mackie / Richards / Joel / Coull / Mckimmie / Panton / McGregor
Ireland and Scotland - Casey / McDade / Phillips / McCandle / Dinely / Comaskey + various spellings

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Post by Jean Jeanie » Mon Mar 06, 2006 12:47 am

Hi Tracey

1st column: Forms of the Jesute Church.
2nd column: Tailor and Clothier
4th column: Frederic St Edinburgh.....probably Frederick St
5th column: Father's profession Merchant. Mother's name Rachel.
6th column: Abraham Harfield No 6 Hill Place
Charles Lament 3 York Place. Magnus Mullen 34 East George St.

Jean

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Post by Jack » Mon Mar 06, 2006 12:49 am

Hi Tracey,
The best i can make it - and rather unsure on addresses.
--
1st column i can make out 1865 - Edinburgh and Church only
1865 On the Eighth of February at 11 Walrick? Place Edinburgh
After Banns according to The Forms of the Jewish? Church
--
2nd column - what is Hyams proffession, looks like Tailor (?) and ......
Tailor & Clothier
--
4th column - where did they live ?
13 South Frederick Street.
--
5th column - fathers profession and mothers first name ?
Merchant - Rachel
--
6th column i can make out only a few words
Abraham Harfeld?
c/o? 6 Hill Place
Charles Lamont?
3 York? Place
? Magnus Muller?
34 Cockburn? Street
==
Jack
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Post by AndrewP » Mon Mar 06, 2006 12:51 am

Hi Tracey,

Here's my go at it.

Column 1
1865, on the eighth day of February at 11 ______ Place, Edinburgh
After banns according to the forms of the Jewish Church

Columns 2 to 4
Hyam AbramS, Tailor and Cutter (bachelor); 27; 13 South Frederick Street, Edinburgh
Sophia Joel, Milliner (spinster); 28; Do.

Column 5
Peter Abrams, Merchant
Rachel Abrams, M.S. Hyams
_____ Joel, Minister of the Jewish Church (Deceased)
Susan Joel, M.S. Moses (Deceased)

Column 6
(signed) Abraham Harsell(?), No.6 Hill Place
(signed) Charles Lamont, Witness, 3 York Place
(signed) R(?) Magnus Miller, 34 Cockburn Street, Witness

All the best,

Andrew Paterson

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Post by Tracey » Mon Mar 06, 2006 1:07 am

I should have listened to my mother and eaten more carrots !

I must admit i am enjoying my Scottish Jewish findings. Its made me perk up again after a long stale mate concerning my Donaldson's and not knowing where to look next.

Thank you Andrew, Jack, Jean and Lesley i shall mull over this tomorrow.

L'Chayim (cheers)

Tracey
Scotland - Donaldson / Moggach / Shaw / Geddes / Sim / Gray / Mackie / Richards / Joel / Coull / Mckimmie / Panton / McGregor
Ireland and Scotland - Casey / McDade / Phillips / McCandle / Dinely / Comaskey + various spellings

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Post by DavidWW » Mon Mar 06, 2006 10:43 am

I'd read .........


Columns 2 to 4
Hyam Abrams, Tailor and Clothier [notice the letter after the "t" which has a faint upper limb]


Column 5
Peter Abrams, Merchant
Rachel Abrams, M.S. Hyams
Moses Joel, Minister of the Jewish Church (Deceased)
Susan Joel, M.S. Moses (Deceased)

David