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please help, i am trying to find out where in Scotland my 5x grt grandad was born. the info i have is, John Arries born abt 1760 married ? Wright and had 1 son Mansfield born 1784, Mansfield married Cecily Hope and had 4 children with her. They were all born in Scotland. I would be grateful for any information .
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Hi Mags
...and a warm welcome to Talking Scot.
On a preliminary look on the IGI, all I can see for the names you mention are submissions, giving only "Scotland" which is a little disappointing. On SP I can't find anything for a Mansfield Ar* pre 1855, or a post 1855 death. However, with such an unusual name, the spelling variations and opportunities for mis- transcriptions are numerous.
I was going to suggest you check the OPR, but that will be difficult when there appear, so far, to be no mentions I can find! Can I ask where you found the information? What sort of source was it? Do you have a Scots post-1855 death as a starting point?
These children are on IGI, but again, all submissions..
Lesley
...and a warm welcome to Talking Scot.
On a preliminary look on the IGI, all I can see for the names you mention are submissions, giving only "Scotland" which is a little disappointing. On SP I can't find anything for a Mansfield Ar* pre 1855, or a post 1855 death. However, with such an unusual name, the spelling variations and opportunities for mis- transcriptions are numerous.
I was going to suggest you check the OPR, but that will be difficult when there appear, so far, to be no mentions I can find! Can I ask where you found the information? What sort of source was it? Do you have a Scots post-1855 death as a starting point?
These children are on IGI, but again, all submissions..
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Father: Mansfield Arries, Mother: Cecily Hope
Exact Spelling: Off
International Genealogical Index / British Isles - 6
1. Alexander Arries - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 1810 , , Scotland
2. Alexander Arries - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 1810 , , Scotland
3. John ARRIES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: About 1810 , , Scotland
4. Alexander ARRIES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: About 1812 , , Scotland
5. Jane ARRIES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: About 1813 , , Scotland
6. ARRIES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: About 1815 , , Scotland
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Hi Lesley,
Thank you so much for the reply and the welcome. I have to admit i am pulling my hair out with this one, i already have the information from the IGI. im beginning to think it was'nt Scotland they were born but Northumberland
as Mansfields oldest son my 4x grt grndfather is on the 1841 cencus for Cornhill on Tweed with his family. Mansfield Arries emigrated to America in 1841 and settled in Wisconsin and it was one of his descendents i got the information from as she has a site , The First Generation Of Arries Family.
I don't have any post death dates unfortunately but John and his wife were supposed to have lived to a ripe old age. I also think the name could have changed with Arris being the most common.
thanks again Margaret
Thank you so much for the reply and the welcome. I have to admit i am pulling my hair out with this one, i already have the information from the IGI. im beginning to think it was'nt Scotland they were born but Northumberland
as Mansfields oldest son my 4x grt grndfather is on the 1841 cencus for Cornhill on Tweed with his family. Mansfield Arries emigrated to America in 1841 and settled in Wisconsin and it was one of his descendents i got the information from as she has a site , The First Generation Of Arries Family.
I don't have any post death dates unfortunately but John and his wife were supposed to have lived to a ripe old age. I also think the name could have changed with Arris being the most common.
thanks again Margaret
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Hello Mags - there is a 12 year old Mansfield Arries on the 1851 census in Tilmouth, Northumberland. Father John age 42 is a shoemaker and he and his wife Elenor age 45 have two other children, Jane age 14 and John age 8 (or 3, there's a line through). They were all born in Northumberland. Any connection?
Best wishes
Pinkshoes
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Pinkshoes
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Hi Mags:
There are 14 references to Mansfield Arries on IGI all of which are submissions carrying messages "
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter" (or similar)
You might want to go further into the LDS system, but the vague references and the age of the postings, suggest that would be rather fruitless.
The OPRs were not very fruitfull for Mansfield Arries, but there is a great room for spelling/transcription/hearing errors for such a name.
Frances
There are 14 references to Mansfield Arries on IGI all of which are submissions carrying messages "
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter" (or similar)
You might want to go further into the LDS system, but the vague references and the age of the postings, suggest that would be rather fruitless.
The OPRs were not very fruitfull for Mansfield Arries, but there is a great room for spelling/transcription/hearing errors for such a name.
Frances
John Kelly (b 22 Sep 1897) eldest child of John Kelly & Christina Lipsett Kelly of Glasgow
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Hi Pinkshoes
Thank you for your reply, Mansfield johns son is my x3 grt grandfather. I know John moved into Northumberland i just can't find where in Scotland he was born, it's a complete blank. thank you for looking it up for me it's back to the drawing board i think.
regards Margaret
Thank you for your reply, Mansfield johns son is my x3 grt grandfather. I know John moved into Northumberland i just can't find where in Scotland he was born, it's a complete blank. thank you for looking it up for me it's back to the drawing board i think.
regards Margaret
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Hi Margaret
As soon as I saw the name I thought the most likely mistranscription would be HARRIS.
Have you used wildcards to look for *arri*s*. It seems an unlikely combination but there are not too many other names that might fit.
We have plaxcenmaes Lewis and Harris so with a mindset knowing these names, and knowing that there are several surnames which equate with
place names it would be worth a try.
Russell
As soon as I saw the name I thought the most likely mistranscription would be HARRIS.
Have you used wildcards to look for *arri*s*. It seems an unlikely combination but there are not too many other names that might fit.
We have plaxcenmaes Lewis and Harris so with a mindset knowing these names, and knowing that there are several surnames which equate with
place names it would be worth a try.
Russell
Working on: Oman, Brock, Miller/Millar, in Caithness.
Roan/Rowan, Hastings, Sharp, Lapraik in Ayr & Kirkcudbrightshire.
Johnston, Reside, Lyle all over the place !
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Watson, Morton, Anderson, Tawse, in Kilrenny
Roan/Rowan, Hastings, Sharp, Lapraik in Ayr & Kirkcudbrightshire.
Johnston, Reside, Lyle all over the place !
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Hi Russell.
There are a number of variations for my name , Arris, aries in fact there is a place in Kirkholm with the name Aries , i have looked at the site and there were a number of people with that name.
I think i'll change tact and look into variation's.
There is one other clue , Jane Arries born1813 married a mr Graham in Edinburgh but i don't know where or when.
Thank you for your help with this.
Regards Margaret
There are a number of variations for my name , Arris, aries in fact there is a place in Kirkholm with the name Aries , i have looked at the site and there were a number of people with that name.
I think i'll change tact and look into variation's.
There is one other clue , Jane Arries born1813 married a mr Graham in Edinburgh but i don't know where or when.
Thank you for your help with this.
Regards Margaret
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Hi Margaret,
There is a MATTHEW MANSFIELD ARRIS m JEAN HALL 28 Nov 1817 Yelthom Roxburgh. THis is an extracted entry. Must be connected somehow. There are a few extracted entries in Roxburgh on IGI if you search on ARRIS.
Karen Mc Cubbin
There is a MATTHEW MANSFIELD ARRIS m JEAN HALL 28 Nov 1817 Yelthom Roxburgh. THis is an extracted entry. Must be connected somehow. There are a few extracted entries in Roxburgh on IGI if you search on ARRIS.
Karen Mc Cubbin
Lochiel, McKinlay, McGibbon/McCubbin, Cunningham, McDougall, Burnside - Lanarkshire->Ayrshire.
Hay, Hannah, - Kirkcudbright.
McIntosh, McQuaters/McWatters, White, - Kilmarnock
Murdoch, Hope, McMillan - Muirkirk
Hay, Hannah, - Kirkcudbright.
McIntosh, McQuaters/McWatters, White, - Kilmarnock
Murdoch, Hope, McMillan - Muirkirk