Mary Boag, Govan.....

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fortunata
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Post by fortunata » Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:16 pm

Hi Jean,
Thanks for your reply. If they were living in tents, i thinks they must have been mighty big ones!! I might even try posting it as a separate query, just in case no-one comes across it here. Would certainly love to know exactly what it was like. (well, as far as is possible) regards Carol (fortunata)

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"Tents" in 1881

Post by Jack » Thu Sep 22, 2005 9:48 pm

Hi Carol,
Re 1881 cens 501 Ed 7 p 31
I'd a look at the original page and the name isn't BAYNE, but could be BAGNE, or BAGUE with a poorly written 'U'.
The middle letter is a definite 'G' - not a 'Y'.
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From the enumerator's schedule of Ed 7 (St. James' Parish, Clydebank) -
"Lies between west end of Clydebank Terrace and the Cottage, including the Shipyard
and the whole of south side of Clydebank Village, Sleeping Bothies, Canal Manager's house
West Barns of Clyde Farm, and ending with the Clydebank Cottage"

It would seem that the "Tents" were the Sleeping Bothies.
But the word looks like Tenant (the very 1st might even be tenment) on pages for the first few times, but eventually it ends up like Tent at the end of the book.
Like Jean, i notice that there is more than one family in each "Tent".
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Jack

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Post by fortunata » Thu Sep 22, 2005 10:50 pm

Hi Jack, and thanks for your fast reply! It seems very likely that this family could well be relevant, i do know that my gtgt grandfather was a shipyard labourer after moving from ireland to glasgow. Maybe, as you say, it started out as "tenement" and the enumerator got a bit tired of re-writing it, so it got shortened to "tent". Perhaps if i could trace his death it might give more information? I dont know how difficult that would be without a date of death (near impossible i guess) ! All i have to go on is that i know he married in 1871 in Belfast, and by 1873 was living in Glasgow, and by 1893 he was deceased. Think i might need Hercule Poirot!! (or, if you-or anyone else, has any useful suggestions....) Thanks for your help. Carol

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Post by JustJean » Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:27 pm

Hi again Carol

You really should have some success in looking for his death based on the death record for his wife that I already posted. Since she died in 1901 in Old Kilpatrick and the 1881 census has them in Old Kilpatrick you can assume that Old Kilpatrick may well be the parish that he died in. Knowing that he was dead by 1893 and alive in 1881 census (we assume that is the right family) you have the search window of time. Now just use wildcards to cover the variable spelling of the last name just so you pick up all the Boag, Bogue, Bague, etc spellings!! I bet you'll find him.... I just tried and there is one result but haven't viewed it yet.......go ahead and try!

Best wishes
Jean

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Post by Jack » Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:46 pm

Hi Jean,

You took the words out of my mouth! - i was just writing a very similar reply (except that bit abt looking at SP) :lol:

Carol, Clydebank is in the Old Kilpatrick Parish.
Old Kilpatrick is also the name of a village - within its own Parish of the same name.

Jack

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Post by JustJean » Fri Sep 23, 2005 2:22 am

Hi Jack

I could tell that you were all tuckered out from all the days you've spent lately at the Mitchell :wink: .....thought I'd just jump in and lend you a hand :D !

Actually I should maybe apologize as the previous post was addressed to you and not moi....... :roll:

Jean

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Post by Jack » Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:37 am

Hi Jean,

Jump in any time - all help is very welcome :D

But you're right; i think i do need a wee break!

Thanks - Jack

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RE:The Boags

Post by joette » Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:46 pm

Hi,
As an ex-Bankie I just thought I would add my bit.After trawling through this Census many times looking for my families I would think the address is tenement.
Another source of help is the very nice Library Staff in the Archives at Clydebank Public Library Dumbarton Road Clydebank. With one phone call I was able to locate a Death Notice( with photo of my Great-Uncle). She didnt even flinch when I burst into tears on production of same.This was the first time I had seen him & despite the grainy reproduction standard his resemblance to his GGreat Nephews was remarkable.
They have a wonderful collection a source of much info for any searching for Bankies :D
Researching:SCOTT,Taylor,Young,VEITCH LINLEY,MIDLOTHIAN
WADDELL,ROSS,TORRANCE,GOVAN/DALMUIR/Clackmanannshire
CARR/LEITCH-Scotland,Ireland(County Donegal)
LINLEY/VEITCH-SASK.Canada
ALSO BROWN,MCKIMMIE,MCDOWALL,FRASER.
Greer/Grier,Jenkins/Jankins

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Post by fortunata » Fri Sep 23, 2005 8:11 pm

Hello again,

Jean, Jack and Joette,
I would like to thank you all for your help, advice and suggestions in helping me sort out this particular part of my family history. I am still very much the novice, and very glad of guidance in any form, sometimes i am not sure where to go next, or even if there is a next!! I am so grateful for your contributions, please feel free to jump in my "family pool" any time.

Thanks again, Carol :D

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The "Tents"

Post by Jack » Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:37 pm

Hi Carol,
I'd a closer look at the census pages, and i think i'm wrong in suggesting that the "tents" were the Sleeping Bothies.
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1881 cens 501 Ed 7 - pages are 1 - 34.
page 1 - start
pages 2 to 9 are Nos 4 to 7 Clydebank Terrace.
from page 9 onward says Main Street & "tenment"/ "tent" from 8 to 17 ending on page 34.
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As Joette says looks like they were tenements (possibly new) that continued eastward from
Clydebank Terrace (nos 4 to 7), as nos 8 to 17 Main St (which would later be the Glasgow Rd).
The nos 8 to 17 look like they were added later - they were written in a different ink and hand.

Hoping this makes things a wee bit clearer, and so the ancestors weren't living in a bothy or a tent!

Jack