Hi Sarah
I have just been into LDS and found a Doroth Virginia King b 13th June 24 married 24/06/44 and died 22/11/92. Howver it didn't give me any other information re parents or husband. but I will keep trying.
thanks
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Hi Carol,
That record looks very hopeful. Although King is a common name, the town and year of birth are correct, so I think it is very likely to be the right person (Braddock, Pennsylvania is a very small town-- population of 2,912 in the 2000 census!).
You can order a death certificate by mail from this link:
http://www.dsf.health.state.pa.us/healt ... 8&Q=202275
Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be possible to order it online, unless you know all the information about the person already! The form asks for the parents' names, etc. But by mail you can just put down the information you know.
I still think the best information about living children would be an obituary. Did you hear back yet from the Carnegie library?
Best of luck,
Sarah
That record looks very hopeful. Although King is a common name, the town and year of birth are correct, so I think it is very likely to be the right person (Braddock, Pennsylvania is a very small town-- population of 2,912 in the 2000 census!).
You can order a death certificate by mail from this link:
http://www.dsf.health.state.pa.us/healt ... 8&Q=202275
Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be possible to order it online, unless you know all the information about the person already! The form asks for the parents' names, etc. But by mail you can just put down the information you know.
I still think the best information about living children would be an obituary. Did you hear back yet from the Carnegie library?
Best of luck,
Sarah
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But I am curious to hear it
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hi sarah
thank you for your advice re james king.
Have managed to trace obituraries for james and catherine king.
James died in the 1960s <precise date removed>and Catherine (nee Coyne) King 24/01/1923.
<names and dates removed to protect privacy of possibly living persons. LesleyB>
Catherine had a brother who died in the 1980s. <month and year removed>
Sarah could you please do a search in the us census for Catherine family please if it is not too much trouble.
She was born in illinois but in the 1930 census she was married in Braddock.
Any information would be appreciated.
Cheers
Carolann
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thank you for your advice re james king.
Have managed to trace obituraries for james and catherine king.
James died in the 1960s <precise date removed>and Catherine (nee Coyne) King 24/01/1923.
<names and dates removed to protect privacy of possibly living persons. LesleyB>
Catherine had a brother who died in the 1980s. <month and year removed>
Sarah could you please do a search in the us census for Catherine family please if it is not too much trouble.
She was born in illinois but in the 1930 census she was married in Braddock.
Any information would be appreciated.
Cheers
Carolann
Please see http://talkingscot.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6601
for guidance on posts which contain possibly living persons. Thanks. LesleyB
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Hi Carolann,
Here's a start...
I see that Harry in the 1930 census says his father was born in England and his mother in Pennsylvania. Catherine says Massachusetts and Pennsylvania
Then... in 1920 Harry continues his story, but there is this family of Coynes in North Braddock, all born in England except the stepmother who was born in Ireland. One of the girls is Katherine, age 12. Hmmm. They say they came over in 1910, except the father, who came in 1909. I think these may be relatives.
In 1910 in Braddock there is a woman named Catherine Coine (57), with children Michael (27), Harry (20) and Katie (16) all born in Illinois. In this census the children all say both of their parents were born in Pennsylvania, just to make things trickier for us.
Aha! Found them in 1900 with the father living. They are in Massachusetts, which explains Catherine's claim in 1930 that her father was born there. In fact, he says he was born in England in Oct 1851 (although the image is faint and it looks like he is 41 years old, which doesn't fit).
1900
Everett, Middlesex County, Massachusetts
Coine, James, head, born Oct 1851 in England, came to U.S. in 1874 (he does something with stationery, but I can't read what)
___ Kate, wife, born Apr 1853 in Pennsylvania, parents born in France (other censuses she says her mother was born in Switzerland)
___ Maurice, son, born Feb 1879 in Pennsylvania
___John, son, born ? 1881 in Missouri
___Michael, son, born Nov 1882 in Illinois
___James, son, born Dec 1884 in Illinois
___Kate, daughter, born July 1893 in Illinois
In 1880 James and Kathy are in West Belleville, St Clair County, Illinois with 1 year old Morris.
Back again to 1920 and I finally found them in North Braddock. The children claim they were born in Massachusetts this time
so I couldn't find them.
Precinct One, North Braddock, Allegheny County, Pennsylvania
Coyne, Kate, head, 65, widowed, born in Penn, father in France, mother in Switzerland
Katherine, daughter, 26, born in Massachusetts, father in England, mother in Penn
George, son, 40, born in Massachusetts, father in England, mother in Penn, Electrician
Have no idea who George is... unless Maurice/Morris decided he didn't like to use his French name. (Note later: The answer comes in his WWI Draft Registration card: George Maurice Coyne, this time born 6 April 1879)
Got to go now, but I'll see if I can find more later.
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Sarah
Here's a start...
I see that Harry in the 1930 census says his father was born in England and his mother in Pennsylvania. Catherine says Massachusetts and Pennsylvania

Then... in 1920 Harry continues his story, but there is this family of Coynes in North Braddock, all born in England except the stepmother who was born in Ireland. One of the girls is Katherine, age 12. Hmmm. They say they came over in 1910, except the father, who came in 1909. I think these may be relatives.
In 1910 in Braddock there is a woman named Catherine Coine (57), with children Michael (27), Harry (20) and Katie (16) all born in Illinois. In this census the children all say both of their parents were born in Pennsylvania, just to make things trickier for us.
Aha! Found them in 1900 with the father living. They are in Massachusetts, which explains Catherine's claim in 1930 that her father was born there. In fact, he says he was born in England in Oct 1851 (although the image is faint and it looks like he is 41 years old, which doesn't fit).
1900
Everett, Middlesex County, Massachusetts
Coine, James, head, born Oct 1851 in England, came to U.S. in 1874 (he does something with stationery, but I can't read what)
___ Kate, wife, born Apr 1853 in Pennsylvania, parents born in France (other censuses she says her mother was born in Switzerland)
___ Maurice, son, born Feb 1879 in Pennsylvania
___John, son, born ? 1881 in Missouri
___Michael, son, born Nov 1882 in Illinois
___James, son, born Dec 1884 in Illinois
___Kate, daughter, born July 1893 in Illinois
In 1880 James and Kathy are in West Belleville, St Clair County, Illinois with 1 year old Morris.
Back again to 1920 and I finally found them in North Braddock. The children claim they were born in Massachusetts this time

Precinct One, North Braddock, Allegheny County, Pennsylvania
Coyne, Kate, head, 65, widowed, born in Penn, father in France, mother in Switzerland
Katherine, daughter, 26, born in Massachusetts, father in England, mother in Penn
George, son, 40, born in Massachusetts, father in England, mother in Penn, Electrician
Have no idea who George is... unless Maurice/Morris decided he didn't like to use his French name. (Note later: The answer comes in his WWI Draft Registration card: George Maurice Coyne, this time born 6 April 1879)
Got to go now, but I'll see if I can find more later.
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bHi Sarah
Wow thank you for this informaton. Confusing or what but hey you managed to get it in the end.
I see I put Catherine died 24/01/1923 but she died in the 1980s. <precise date removed>
Dorothy married <name and dob removed to protect privacy of possibly living persons , LesleyB> and had three children <names removed to protect privacy of possibly living persons>
From all the names in my tree I have got the French Connection - e.g. France, Frederick (German) Jacquette and Catherine mothers maiden name whatever it is.
Thanks again Sarah I really appreciate this.
Carolann
Wow thank you for this informaton. Confusing or what but hey you managed to get it in the end.
I see I put Catherine died 24/01/1923 but she died in the 1980s. <precise date removed>
Dorothy married <name and dob removed to protect privacy of possibly living persons , LesleyB> and had three children <names removed to protect privacy of possibly living persons>
From all the names in my tree I have got the French Connection - e.g. France, Frederick (German) Jacquette and Catherine mothers maiden name whatever it is.
Thanks again Sarah I really appreciate this.
Carolann