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DavidWW
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Post by DavidWW » Fri Oct 14, 2005 2:24 pm

Annette

Many thanks for that.

Unfortunately, from a look at the site that you recommended, it appears to be the case that these records are simple listings of the names of those who have received some form of relief, but are not the "mini biographies" that are provided by the Glasgow and many other West of Scotland surviving, very detailed poor inspectors' reports.........

David

Caroline
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Post by Caroline » Fri Oct 14, 2005 2:44 pm

Hi Jim.

That's brilliant! I didn't realise that a Poorhouse record could contain so much amazing info. Even just the excerpts have solved a few mysteries and opened up more leads at the same time.

Now I have an idea why Richard Nicholson was down on the 1871 census as being born in Dingwall as opposed to Ireland. He must have said Donegal to the enumerator and he's interpreted it as Dingwall.

Thanks for taking the time to do that Jim it means a lot to me.

Caroline
Hood, Nicholson, Strang, Taylor, Wallace - GLASGOW
Ritchie, Robertson, Smith, Summers - FIFE
Henderson, Montgomery, Rutherford - HAUGH OF URR
Hart, McAdam, Young - DUNBARTONSHIRE
Caldwell, Roberts - RENFREWSHIRE

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Post by Caroline » Fri Oct 14, 2005 2:58 pm

Hi Annette,

Thanks for yet another generous offer!

I'm hoping to get the original at some point, but I must admit that I'd love to see the whole thing just now as I'm quite excited by the info from Jim.
I'm dying to know what it says about Richards other daughter Martha, who was my g.g.grandmother, and her husband John Taylor(who died in Dumbarton Poorhouse).

So what I'm saying is yes I'd love it transcribed, but I'm just worried that there's too much info as Jim says it's 2 pages.

Have a look anyway Annette and you can decide once you've seen it. Even an abridged version would be helpful.

Enjoy your day at the Mitchell!

Caroline
Hood, Nicholson, Strang, Taylor, Wallace - GLASGOW
Ritchie, Robertson, Smith, Summers - FIFE
Henderson, Montgomery, Rutherford - HAUGH OF URR
Hart, McAdam, Young - DUNBARTONSHIRE
Caldwell, Roberts - RENFREWSHIRE

nelmit
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Application

Post by nelmit » Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:09 pm

Hello Caroline,

You can view a page of one of mine at -
http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-69

They were very detailed at that time.

Annette M

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Post by nelmit » Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:19 pm

DavidWW wrote:Annette

Many thanks for that.

Unfortunately, from a look at the site that you recommended, it appears to be the case that these records are simple listings of the names of those who have received some form of relief, but are not the "mini biographies" that are provided by the Glasgow and many other West of Scotland surviving, very detailed poor inspectors' reports.........

David
Hello David,

I have received a transcription of one and, although it was not as detailed as some of the Glasgow applications I've viewed, it did give me previously unknown information about the person.
It's definitely worth a shot if you find an ancestor in the index.

Regards,
Annette M

Jack
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Poor Relief 1873 Richard Nicholson

Post by Jack » Fri Oct 14, 2005 5:15 pm

Hi folks,

Just to say there is also an 1873 Barony Parish Poor Relief application for Richard NICHOLSON (D-HEW. 13/28. page 13910)
I only had time to check it was the right man. A quick look gives the probable reason why he separated from wife Martha CROSSAN....

Jack

DavidWW
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Post by DavidWW » Fri Oct 14, 2005 6:26 pm

nelmit wrote:
DavidWW wrote:Annette

Many thanks for that.

Unfortunately, from a look at the site that you recommended, it appears to be the case that these records are simple listings of the names of those who have received some form of relief, but are not the "mini biographies" that are provided by the Glasgow and many other West of Scotland surviving, very detailed poor inspectors' reports.........

David
Hello David,

I have received a transcription of one and, although it was not as detailed as some of the Glasgow applications I've viewed, it did give me previously unknown information about the person.
It's definitely worth a shot if you find an ancestor in the index.

Regards,
Annette M
Most interesting to know, thanks, Annette. I was afraid that it might be a list of names and nothing more.

Any chance of posting an image, or letting us see a transcription?

David

nelmit
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Post by nelmit » Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:44 pm

David,

Here is the reply I received from Dundee Archives re poorhouse reference No 1865.

Thank you for your enquiry. I have checked the full entry for Eliza McHood or
Moonie , admitted 29 September 1863, age 30. Her address is given as Patons
Land, west end of Lochee; occupation: millworker; place of birth: County Cavan,
Ireland; partially disabled; married; children: Elizabeth (4 years and 4 months
old) and Hannah (1 year and 11 months old); Husband:James Moonie; cause of
application: pregnancy and inability to support herself; removed from roll 3
Nov 1863 because "destitution ceased".


I was curious to know if her husband was still on the scene at this point.

Annette M

Caroline
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Post by Caroline » Fri Oct 14, 2005 9:28 pm

Hi Annette,

Had a look at the image you posted and there seems an awful lot of info to transcribe so I think I'll just wait till the copy arrives. I'm intrigued by this other application that Jack has discovered though!

Caroline
Hood, Nicholson, Strang, Taylor, Wallace - GLASGOW
Ritchie, Robertson, Smith, Summers - FIFE
Henderson, Montgomery, Rutherford - HAUGH OF URR
Hart, McAdam, Young - DUNBARTONSHIRE
Caldwell, Roberts - RENFREWSHIRE

nelmit
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Post by nelmit » Fri Oct 14, 2005 9:32 pm

Caroline wrote:Hi Annette,

Had a look at the image you posted and there seems an awful lot of info to transcribe so I think I'll just wait till the copy arrives. I'm intrigued by this other application that Jack has discovered though!

Caroline
I'll have a look tomorrow.

Annette M