Mary Ann Ramsay

April · Post by **April** » Sat Sep 27, 2008 12:31 am

I am having trouble working out where Mary Ann Ramsay was born and who her father was.

She is on the 1911 Canada census (look for Mard Ann Ramsay husband George) in Sault Ste Marie, Algoma Co. The transcription says she was born "Plym Kco Eng". The image is hazy and looks like it starts with "Plym" with England at the end.

The age is not necessarily right as George Ramsay was born in Scotland 6 Feb 1877 - he put his age up and she may have brought hers down. When she died in 1913 she is aged 44

Mary Ann died 15 Apr 1913 in Sault Ste Marie (image on Ancestry). At first glance her father's name looks like Paronse but may be something like Parsons, or it could be a u or w after the Pa.

If someone else could have a look I would appreciate it
Thanks
April

Post by **paddyscar** » Sat Sep 27, 2008 4:42 am

Hi April:

Definitely not a good image! I viewed it at http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/ ... p?id=79282

Along the top of the page double click on split view and you can see the census ledger
1911 Census of Canada
Home / 1911 / Ontario / Algoma West / 26 Sault Ste. Marie / page 4 split view

George and Marg't Ann are on lines 7 and 8.

They were living at 18 Hughes St. and George is listed as a machinist. George is listed as being Scottish and his wife is listed as being English, and I think it says Plymouth or Plummer Eng.

It says they immigrated in 1906 and gives their births as Feb and Mar 1873.

I am sending you a PM about getting information on this couple for you.

Frances

April · Post by **April** » Sat Sep 27, 2008 8:44 am

Thanks Frances
I had found that site by googling George with Sault Ste Marie but hadn't realised the image was there as well. The quality is about the same as Ancestry though
Regards
April

Post by **paddyscar** » Sat Sep 27, 2008 5:51 pm

Hi April:

I have sent you a PM (personal message) which is waiting for you to open.

You can read the instructions on how to retrieve your message by clicking on this link:

http://talkingscot.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6760

Frances

Post by **paddyscar** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 1:13 am

I should have read the instructions regarding PMs myself, as I've just discovered that I actually PMd myself rather than April

I've resent the message ... better double check that I've done it properly this time

Frances

Post by **marilyn morning** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 1:42 am

April · Post by **April** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 5:44 am

Yes, received your PM OK this time thanks

I have uploaded the death certificate image to the gallery, in case anyone can work out Mary's maiden name.
http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayi ... ?pos=-1631
Regards
April

URL added by Frances

Post by **paddyscar** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 6:26 am

Hi April:

I'd go with Paronse or Pannse

Frances

Post by **SarahND** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:47 am

Hi April,

Here is my best guess. Could the entry on the census say "Plym. Dev. Eng" or "Plymtree, Eng"?:

In the 1871 census there is a Mary Ann Prouse, age 3 living with her grandparents William and Ann G Prouse in Plymtree, Devon. There is no sign of who her parents were. BUT, in 1861 William and Ann do have a son Robert, born 1842 in Gittisham.

Mary Ann Prouse, born Plymtree, is in Northfield, Worcestershire in 1881, a servant in the Weaver family.

If this sounds plausible to you, I will look further into this family.

All the best,
Sarah

April · Post by **April** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 12:48 pm

Hi Sarah & Frances
"Plym. Dev. Eng" or "Plymtree, Eng" both look plausible when compared to the image and Mary Ann Prouse seems promising. The death entry image might read something"Parowse".
If Mary was illiterate George may have been going by her pronunciation and it may have sounded like that.
There are only a couple of results on Ancestry for Paronse and Pannse so probably not those.
George was my great grandmother's brother and Mary Ann was his first wife.
April