Records South of the Border

Post by **Pandabean** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 5:11 pm

I am in need of help from people who have access to English Records.

I am trying to trace one of my Greenlees Relatives who moved to Manchester during WW1 or after. He may have served in the war as there is only one Andrew Greenlees that served according to The NA.

How do I know he was in Manchester?
1 - He signed his Father's death Certificate and stated that he lived at 88 Charleton Road, Manchester.

2 - He also signed his wife's death certificate. Who died in Lochgelly, Fife. Why was he in Manchester and she up here? I cant find a marriage on SP for the couple.

3 - His brother William, served in the Manchester Regiment. I am guessing a couple of them moved down to Manchester.

What I am hoping to get help with is to see if he died in Manchester and if so find if he had any family.

To find out where he married

And finally to try and see if it is indeed him in WW1.

Medal card of Greenlees, Andrew
Corps Regiment No Rank
Royal Army Service Corps T/31158 Driver

Here is his details:
Andrew GREENLEES (1890- )

Father: Andrew GREENLEES (1861-1922)
Mother: Sarah DAVIDSON (1861-1918)

Individual Events and Attributes

Birth 18 Dec 1890 Brightlee Cottages, Loanhead, Lasswade
Occupation Dock Labourer

Marriage
Spouse Leena CAIN ( -1921)

grannysrock · Post by **grannysrock** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 8:15 am

Hi Pandabean

1919 Apr-Jun Quarter

Names of Persons Married District Vol Page
Greenlees, Andrew Cain Barton I. 8c* 1627
Cain Lina Greenlees Barton I. 8c 1627

*Very difficult to read , could have been a 5, but the
Cain entry was clearer.

No sign of children between then and 1921.

Hope this helps

Sally

Post by **Pandabean** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 9:02 am

Thank you.

Is this from the English records? Is there any way to find a death certificate of this person at all.

I did check out 1837 for registration but I only have one person in England. So i didnt know if it was worth it.

grannysrock wrote:Hi Pandabean

1919 Apr-Jun Quarter

Names of Persons Married District Vol Page
Greenlees, Andrew Cain Barton I. 8c* 1627
Cain Lina Greenlees Barton I. 8c 1627

*Very difficult to read , could have been a 5, but the
Cain entry was clearer.

No sign of children between then and 1921.

Hope this helps

Sally

grannysrock · Post by **grannysrock** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 7:31 am

Yes this is from the English records. I thought access to the the BMD images at Ancestry.co.uk was free provided you registered with them.
I have a sub so I don't know if this is still true or not - can anyone else verify ?

If he died before 1984 ( and I don't see him after that date ) , you would have to plough through all the images* starting from the date of your last sighting of him.
*Until 1984 the images are indexed only by the first surname on each page - so there will be one or two pages each quarter which may contain the name Greenlees.
If he lived a long life you might have to look through hundreds of images... Bonne courage !

Sally

garibaldired · Post by **garibaldired** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 4:45 pm

Yes access to the BMD's on ancestry is still free.
Happy searching!
Meg

Post by **Pandabean** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:37 am

I have just went back to look for this marriage on Ancestry but I cannot seem to find it. Can anyone give any advice on how to try and search for it?

Thanks
Andy

Post by **SarahND** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:04 pm

Hi Andy,
I can't find it either

I know they have only about 50% of the records up so far, but if Sally found it...

Sally, did you get that from the FreeBMD on Ancestry?
Regards,
Sarah

grannysrock · Post by **grannysrock** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:59 pm

Sally, did you get that from the FreeBMD on Ancestry?

I found it on Ancestree,
If you select Complete BMD Index ranges & Images 1837-1983 , then Marriages ,
then select 1919 and Apr-May-Jun Quarter ,
then do two searches - one for each party, you should find them both with the same reference.

If you dont succeed I can download the pages for you.

Sally

Post by **SarahND** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:16 pm

Well, I've learned something new! My headings are somewhat different from yours-- odd! If I go into search and choose UK & Ireland, then England, then England Birth, Marriage and Death Records, I get a choice of these two for marriages:

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983 - Free Index

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1837-1983 - Free Index

The first one gives no results for this couple, but the second one does. Andy, the results look like you have got the wrong names, but it is just giving you the names at the beginning and end of the page. The name you want is on that page somewhere. Good luck!
Thanks, Sally

Sarah

Post by **Pandabean** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:30 pm

I'm confused. :S Are you meaning that the names are both on the page and have been indexed twice under each party?

Can I ask, how much does it cost to view the certificate? I don't want to put money in for one result and have money left over that will run out. Sorry you can tell I havent used ancestry much.

Sarah, sorry I never got back you about your email, just been tied down with uni work.

Andy

Edit: ok I found the search part of the website that you are reffering to but there are no hits in 1919 for either of them.
I am under: England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1837-1983