Hello All, Just to let Lesley know I received my prize thank you and I got another surprise last week when a friend returned from a trip to Glasgow and brought me the Detective Book so all is well here.
Whilst I am here I wonder if anyone can solve this place name which I have been trying to figure out for at least a year.
IGI has a place name TOTYSICH in Glenshiel. Then in 1871 census it is called TORCHUILIN. It is nowhere on my Ross & Cromarty Map and Google etc haven't a clue. Maybe a change of name?
Lizzie
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Hi Lizzie,
I have not had any luck with TOTYSICH, but I have a few clues about TORCHUILIN.
On the south side of the road through Glenshiel is a mountain Sgurr a' Chuilinn (sgurr = high pointed or conical hill, chuilinn = holly). Tor = mound or low conical hill. In that sense, there is a fair chance that a lower peak of Sgurr a' Chuilinn could be Tor a' Chuilinn. I have searched recent and old maps with no sign of Torchuilin, so this is only a theory. We could be looking for a shepherd's cottage on a hillside. What was the occupation of the head of the household?
On the census page, are there names of neighbouring houses? If so, they could help as most census books are done in an order that they can be found in.
As far as Totysich goes, if a name of a place smaller than a parish is given, that is normally only on an LDS submitted entry. Is that the case here? Is there any sign of an entry on ScotlandsPeople to match this one? If so, there is the possibility of seeing the handwritten document (presumably OPR) it came from and seek further opinion of the place name.
More questions than answers I'm afraid, but genealogy is like that.
All the best,
AndrewP
I have not had any luck with TOTYSICH, but I have a few clues about TORCHUILIN.
On the south side of the road through Glenshiel is a mountain Sgurr a' Chuilinn (sgurr = high pointed or conical hill, chuilinn = holly). Tor = mound or low conical hill. In that sense, there is a fair chance that a lower peak of Sgurr a' Chuilinn could be Tor a' Chuilinn. I have searched recent and old maps with no sign of Torchuilin, so this is only a theory. We could be looking for a shepherd's cottage on a hillside. What was the occupation of the head of the household?
On the census page, are there names of neighbouring houses? If so, they could help as most census books are done in an order that they can be found in.
As far as Totysich goes, if a name of a place smaller than a parish is given, that is normally only on an LDS submitted entry. Is that the case here? Is there any sign of an entry on ScotlandsPeople to match this one? If so, there is the possibility of seeing the handwritten document (presumably OPR) it came from and seek further opinion of the place name.
More questions than answers I'm afraid, but genealogy is like that.
All the best,
AndrewP
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Hi Lizzie,
A little while later...
I have a possibility for Totysich. Allowing for some mistranscription and some anglicisation of the Gaelic, there is Torrlaoighseach, between Sgurr a' Chuilinn and the head of Loch Duich. I am suggesting the anglicised version could be Torlysich.
current Ordnance Survey map showing Torrlaoighseach
current Ordnance Survey map showing Sgurr a' Chuilinn
map of the wider area
These locations are about 5km (3 miles) apart.
All the best,
AndrewP
A little while later...
I have a possibility for Totysich. Allowing for some mistranscription and some anglicisation of the Gaelic, there is Torrlaoighseach, between Sgurr a' Chuilinn and the head of Loch Duich. I am suggesting the anglicised version could be Torlysich.
current Ordnance Survey map showing Torrlaoighseach
current Ordnance Survey map showing Sgurr a' Chuilinn
map of the wider area
These locations are about 5km (3 miles) apart.
All the best,
AndrewP
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Hi Andrew,
Looking at the Torchuilin again (Parrish of Kintail) this 1871 census has just two Macrae families, one has as HEAD Wood Forrester.
The other Head is a Shoemaker.
Enumerators Comments at the bottom of page -
End of the Hamlet of Torchuilin!
Obvious previous pages
As for Tortyshch the Macraes I am looking at were born late 1700
All mention Glenshiel, and first son b. MORVICH 1828.
Lizzie
Looking at the Torchuilin again (Parrish of Kintail) this 1871 census has just two Macrae families, one has as HEAD Wood Forrester.
The other Head is a Shoemaker.
Enumerators Comments at the bottom of page -
End of the Hamlet of Torchuilin!
Obvious previous pages
As for Tortyshch the Macraes I am looking at were born late 1700
All mention Glenshiel, and first son b. MORVICH 1828.
Lizzie