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crayspond · Post by **crayspond** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:09 am

Hi,
I'm not sure where to post this question as it covers a few topics.
My gt gt grandfather was a David Beveridge born Bridgeton, Glasgow 24/10/1862. I can trace his family back a fair bit and probably further when i have time to go to Dunfermline in Fife.
As it was my father's grandfather - he told me that the story was that he disappeared to America? after my grandfather was born. Thomas Beveridge 6/9/1884. Birth cert shows father as David Beveridge mother Catherine Wright I could not find a marriage cert for them. However when my grandfather married in 1920, The names of mother and father are David Beveridge and Catherine Beveridge now McPhee m.s Wright.
I have checked the deaths in Scotland for David with no luck - i have checked the deaths for England with no luck (granted this has been going on for years and i was naive to tips on wildcards etc). I even had a woman check the US census etc and she didn't come up with anything. His occupation was Iron moulder/journeyman in 1884.
He could have went anywhere - i checked Ellis Island and there were a few on there, but without a clue to where he went in the US it led nowhere.
I am interested if anyone has any more ideas? I understand how confusing this reads!

Ailsa

Post by **AndrewP** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:54 am

Hi Ailsa,

On Thomas's 1884 birth certificate it shows him as illegitimate and the parents are both listed, but (unsurprisingly) without any marriage information. As was the law if the father was to be named on the certificate while not married to the mother, both have signed their names as informants. So any marriage between the parents was after that birth, and never notified later to remove the term illegitimate. A later marriage between the parents legitimises (in law) the birth if both parents were legally free to marry at the time of the birth.

I see no sign of David Beveridge having married Catherine Wright in Scotland.

There are two marriages within a suitable date range for a Catherine Wright marrying a M*cPh*e, but if you change the bride's surname to Bev*r* then there are no results. Her marriage, if all the details were given should be indexed under her maiden surname and her previously married surname. However if she was never married to David Beveridge, then one of the two M*cPh*e - Catherine Wright marriages could be her.

All the best,

AndrewP

crayspond · Post by **crayspond** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:28 pm

Hi AndrewP,
Yes i realise that - i actually have her marriage cert to McPhee, where i really get stuck is with what happened to David Beveridge - he seems to have disappeared.

Post by **emanday** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:41 pm

Hi Ailsa,

What was the older David Beveridge's occupation?

Post by **SarahND** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:14 pm

Hi Ailsa,
I suppose you have already seen and discounted the one who was a miner and came over in 1905? He settled in Illinois. In 1905 he had a son called Matthew with him, age 19. Any chance he's the right one? If so, I'd be glad to dig up the info for you. I can't imagine going from Iron Moulder Journeyman to miner, however.
Regards,
Sarah

Edit later: There is a David Beveridge, Iron Moulder, who landed in Boston in 1887, age 24. The trick is, to find out which one he is in the later censuses. No obvious Iron Moulders, but there is one in Palmer, Hampden County, Massachusetts in 1900 who says he came over in 1888 (close enough) and is a Cotton Mill Beaner(?) Not sure what this last word is, but perhaps if it has anything to do with iron parts for the mill...? One worrisome thing is that he says he was born in October 1864. Hmmm

k

Russell · Post by **Russell** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:53 pm

Hi Sarah

Don't think the 1888 one fits. His occupation is probably cotton mill beamer which means he set up cotton weaving looms. rather than working metal.
What's the betting he came from Calton, Lanarkshire too.

Russell

Post by **SarahND** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:59 pm

I'm sure you're right, Russell... I'm grasping at straws

If he is in the census, he has given up iron moulding and that one seemed more likely than a publisher, which was the other choice

Regards,
Sarah

crayspond · Post by **crayspond** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 12:40 pm

Hi Sarah and Russell
Thanks for helping out with this. In the census 1871 in Glasgow all of his family were working in factories relating to cotton (power loom weavers) etc so it's not impossible that at one time he worked there too. Also going back to Fife the Beveridges there all worked as cotton weavers.
Another clue may be the names in the family (if he had any) would probably be David,Thomas(his father) Jane (mother) also George,Margaret,John and Ann.
Thanks again

Ailsa

NadineS · Post by **NadineS** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 2:39 pm

Hi Ailsa,

Another straw to grasp...

Ancestry 1930 St. Louis Illinois census:
There's a David Beveridge born about 1862 in Scotland, father-in-law and widowed, living with a William (34 yrs) and Anna (33 yrs) Holder. David came over in 1890 no occupation Anna was also born in Scotland

Nadine