Parents or Grandparents (McCann/Mcsevney)

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davelna
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Parents or Grandparents (McCann/Mcsevney)

Post by davelna » Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:40 pm

My great grandmother was Isabella McCann born circa 1862 in Girvan,Ayr. According to her death certificate of 27th October 1944 her age was given as 83 and parents given as Daniel McCann and Angnes Shehan/Secahan. Following a search on Scotland`s People the only reference I can find is for a marriage between Daniel and Agnes on the 8th October 1820 in Ayr. The 1841 Census states Daniel aged 40 years and Agnes aged 45 years. This would make Agnes around 86 at the time of Iasbella McCann`s birth!! I have made several searches on Scotland`s People but have not been able to find a birth certificate for Isabella McCann or a certificate for her marriage to Matthew Stewart McSevney which should be circa 1880.

If anyone could point in the right direction to find any of the above I would be most grateful.

David
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Re: Parents or Grandparents (McCann)

Post by SarahND » Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:14 pm

Hello David,

Matthew Stewart McSevney was not yet married when he joined the Royal Artillery in April 1880. His papers say he was married without leave to Isabella McCann on 6 Sep 1886 at Glendermott, Londonderry — so that is why you can’t find it in Scotland! If you don’t have access to the British Army Service Records collection, let me know and I would be happy to send you the files.

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Sarah

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Re: Parents or Grandparents (McCann)

Post by trish1 » Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:04 pm

PDF files of civil Irish marriage certificates are available here

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... search.jsp

Probably because I can't spell I didn't find it under Matthew - but did find it under Isabella McCann & it's not super easy to read but I think
her father is given as Wm McCann - weaver and Matthew's father is John McSevney - fisherman. Ages are given as "of full age"

Trish

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Re: Parents or Grandparents (McCann)

Post by davelna » Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:06 pm

Hello Sarah,

Thank you for your reply. That explains a lot. If you are happy to send Matthew`s service records it would be most appreciated.

Regards

David
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Re: Parents or Grandparents (McCann)

Post by SarahND » Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:52 pm

I have just sent you the records via email. There is quite a bit of interesting information included!

Best wishes,
Sarah

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Re: Parents or Grandparents (McCann)

Post by AndrewP » Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:41 pm

Hi David,

Here's an idea for you to consider. The person registering Isabella's death gave her grandparents' names rather than her parents' names.

I see a birth certificate for Isabella McKenn in Girvan in 1862, illegitimate daughter of Agnes McKenn. Agnes McCann's death certificate can be found in 1916 in Girvan, and she was given as the daughter of Daniel McCann and Agnes Sheechan.

Also in Girvan, you can find the death certificate for Agnes McKenn / Shewchan. If you view that certificate, you will find it difficult to read. It will be worth your while complaining that the scanned certificate is illegible. ScotlandsPeople will likely send you a fresh scan of the certificate by e-mail.

I haven't found Daniel's death. He predeceased Agnes. Maybe his death was pre-1855, or possibly in Ireland, so it may be more difficult to trace a record of that.

All the best,

AndrewP

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Re: Parents or Grandparents (McCann)

Post by davelna » Wed Dec 21, 2016 1:06 pm

Thank you Andrew. I will look them all up on Scotland`s People.

Regards

David
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Re: Parents or Grandparents (McCann)

Post by davelna » Thu Dec 22, 2016 4:56 pm

Thank you to every one for your help. Have now established my grandparents as Mattew Stewart McSevney (jnr) and Margaret Simpson. I cannot find anything for her. Seems to be some confusion about her name/parents. If anyone can assist it would be most appreciated.

David
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Re: Parents or Grandparents (McCann)

Post by SarahND » Thu Dec 22, 2016 6:29 pm

Hello David,
Do you have their 1912 marriage record? What does it say for her parents?

Best wishes,
Sarah

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Re: Parents or Grandparents (McCann)

Post by davelna » Thu Dec 22, 2016 7:01 pm

Hello Sarah,

Marriage was 22nd June 1912 in Partick. Father given as John Simpson, deceased and mother Margaret Simpson nee Holmes. However, there is a correction attached made 1955 to say mother should have read Margaret Hamilton or Ross or Holmes. It also states Margaret Simpson should read Margaret Simpson formerly Hamilton or Ross. Document is signed Maggie Jane Paterson or McSevney.

I guess someone has been married several times or is illegitimate. Totally confusing.

David
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