1911 Census is up!

Southern part of Great Britain

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speleobat2
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Post by speleobat2 » Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:10 am

Here's my two cents worth--that's all I have left!

Yes, it's expensive, but my real objection is that I can use my extra credits on FMP which I don't need to do since I have a six month subscription, but I can't use my FMP sub. to view the 1911 census. Not now anyway.

The saving grace: I only have one relative in England and he and his family showed up crystal clear on the census page for 1911. I could read the whole page!

Now, since the minimum credits you could buy appears to be 60 and I only needed 30 for this one page, I have to find a way to use the others. Maybe I'll peek in on his neighbors...

Carol :D
Looking for: Clerihew, Longmuir/Longmore, Chalmers, Milne, Barclay in Newhills,
Munro, Cadenhead, Raitt, Ririe/Reary

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Post by trish1 » Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:21 am

speleobat2 wrote:Here's my two cents worth--that's all I have left!

Yes, it's expensive, but my real objection is that I can use my extra credits on FMP which I don't need to do since I have a six month subscription, but I can't use my FMP sub. to view the 1911 census. Not now anyway.

The saving grace: I only have one relative in England and he and his family showed up crystal clear on the census page for 1911. I could read the whole page!

Now, since the minimum credits you could buy appears to be 60 and I only needed 30 for this one page, I have to find a way to use the others. Maybe I'll peek in on his neighbors...

Carol :D
Hi Carol

Not having looked at an image, I am unsure as to what you get - I thought I heard/read you do not get a complete page - only the family group - so did you get the complete page - or just the family?

thanks

Trish

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Post by speleobat2 » Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:38 pm

Hi Trish,

What you get is a copy of the form that was given to each family to fill out so it is in your relative's handwriting but is only for that one family. If you want to see the neighbors, you have to call up and pay for each of them individually. One reason why this is so expensive--or downright greedy!

Carol :D
Looking for: Clerihew, Longmuir/Longmore, Chalmers, Milne, Barclay in Newhills,
Munro, Cadenhead, Raitt, Ririe/Reary

trish1
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Post by trish1 » Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:51 pm

speleobat2 wrote:Hi Trish,

What you get is a copy of the form that was given to each family to fill out so it is in your relative's handwriting but is only for that one family. If you want to see the neighbors, you have to call up and pay for each of them individually. One reason why this is so expensive--or downright greedy!

Carol :D
many thanks, I shall wait in hope that it becomes cheaper while I am still wandering cyber space in search of folks.

Trish

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Post by Currie » Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:25 am

The interesting thing here is that the cost of Scottish census images have always been at least 50% more than the equivalent English images and in reality many times more and that’s for a whole lot of reasons. Perhaps the Company which is running this show may think that the uncomplaining Scottish genealogical market will be able to bear a price that is similarly stacked and charge around 50% more than that which they have imposed on the Welsh and the English.

Is this something to look forward to in 2012?

Alan

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Post by Montrose Budie » Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:35 am

Currie wrote:The interesting thing here is that the cost of Scottish census images have always been at least 50% more than the equivalent English images and in reality many times more and that’s for a whole lot of reasons. Perhaps the Company which is running this show may think that the uncomplaining Scottish genealogical market will be able to bear a price that is similarly stacked and charge around 50% more than that which they have imposed on the Welsh and the English.

Is this something to look forward to in 2012?

Alan
Good question, as it's the same company.

ScotlandonLine, which operates the ScotlandsPeople website for GROS, became ' brightsolid ' some months ago. They had previously won the contract to index and digitise the 1911 for E&W.

A few months ago brightsolid bought www.findmypast.com , the apparant site/company involved in the 1911 for E&W .........

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Post by emanday » Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:46 am

Alan and Montrose Budie,

While agreeing that some info on SP might be a little more expensive than on some other sites; Being able to have almost immediate access to BMD information /images on SP has taken my (Scottish) family ancestry forward by leaps and bounds.

Researching my English son-in-iaw's family has been a far more expensive enterprise, as only the index entries are viewable. To confirm actual connections I've had to order certificates - a lot more costly!

I reckon Scotlands People is probably the most cost effective site, providing your ancestors are Scottish. Yet another example of Scotland's forward thinking attitude to its/our history.
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Post by Montrose Budie » Sat Jan 17, 2009 3:03 am

emanday wrote:Alan and Montrose Budie,

While agreeing that some info on SP might be a little more expensive than on some other sites; Being able to have almost immediate access to BMD information /images on SP has taken my (Scottish) family ancestry forward by leaps and bounds.

Researching my English son-in-iaw's family has been a far more expensive enterprise, as only the index entries are viewable. To confirm actual connections I've had to order certificates - a lot more costly!

I reckon Scotlands People is probably the most cost effective site, providing your ancestors are Scottish. Yet another example of Scotland's forward thinking attitude to its/our history.
I wasn't aware that I was suggesting or implying that ScotlandsPeople is too expensive !

On the contrary my clearly expressed opinion on many previous occasions is that it is highly cost effective given that it provides access not just to the indexes but also to digitised images; plus the modern B&D indexes, with the modern M indexes to come 'soon', and lots more both at the moment and in the future! (Read the User Group minutes.)

Earlier this week, once again, it only took one and a half hours to get someone back to their greatgreatgreatgreatgrandparents, and that would only have been three quarters of an hour but for problems making the link from the 2GGP generation to the 3GGP generation (in fact, even less but for the fact that my printer was playing silly b*****s in terms of the times to set up the printing of an image) ; the man having been married at least two times, and the woman twice, with a son's death record showing his mother's maiden name as her first married name ......

Cost?, around 80 credits, - £18,- and would have been a lot less but for the 2G-3G problem which required a load of collateral searching.

Cost in England?, - a minimum of £100 for certificates (minimum because you can't tell if the document is the correct one until you've bought it); this over a period of at least several weeks if not months.

mb

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Post by Anne H » Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:39 am

There's no doubting that Scotland's People is the best there is for Scottish records, and all at a reasonable fee, but of course, you can't get them anywhere else...can you? That said, it can be expensive to those searchers whose level of expertise is a bit shaky at times ..like mine!

It's time for those at SP to seriously consider an annual membership fee like they have on other sites. Just my opinion! :)

Regards,
Anne H

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Post by Montrose Budie » Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:29 pm

Indexes to the 1841 to 1901 Scottish censuses, plus limited transcriptions, have been available at Ancestry for some time.

Although the quality of the indexing leaves a lot to be desired, the indexes can be searched on more fields than at ScotlandsPeople.

mb