help with piece & folio numbers for 1891

[maggie]

Hello
please can anyone help me by finding the piece & folio numbers for Bishopthorpe York in 1891
i have the Yorkshire census discs but im in a bit of a rush with this (its for my daughters geography class tomorrow why she leaves everything to the last minute i dont know)its something to do with comparing life in the village then and now.so she has thought of seeing what the different occupations where,
Any help would be much appreciated
kind regards
maggie

[SarahND]

Hi Maggie,
I guess I'm not too clear on what you're asking for. I can access the 1891 census in Bishopthorpe on Ancestry, but don't see any piece or folio numbers. It says:

Reference: RG12/3890

Is that what you mean? Also, E.D 23

Confused,
Sarah

[maggie]

Sorry to confuse you Sarah but thankyou thats great just what i was looking for
kids whod have them (by they way shes the teacher )
thanks once again
kind regards maggie

[LesleyB]

Hi Sarah

I think "piece & folio numbers" are more commonly used with reference to English census data, although Freecen uses this same terminology for Scottish census data too but there is no folio number for Scotland as far as I remember from my transcribing days...e.g. 1841:

Piece: SCT1841/77 Place: Logie - Easter -Ross and Cromarty Enumeration District: 3
Civil Parish: Logie Easter Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 0 Page: 8
Address: Balchraggan

Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
DUFF William M 50 Shoemaker Ross and Cromarty
DUFF Elspat F 50 Ross and Cromarty
DUFF Janet F 25 Ross and Cromarty
DUFF Christian F 20 Ross and Cromarty
DUFF John M 20 Carpenter Ross and Cromarty
DUFF Hugh M 15 Ag Lab Ross and Cromarty

Best wishes
Lesley

[SarahND]

Thanks, Lesley,
I guess that information is not on the images one sees on Ancestry.

Maggie,
I have only sympathy for a teacher trying madly to get a lesson together the night before Been there, done that... many, many times!!!


Sarah

[joette]

=D> =D> "Sorry Headmaster but my Mum didn't get my homework prep done for me".

[trish1]

Thanks, Lesley,
I guess that information is not on the images one sees on Ancestry.

Maggie,
I have only sympathy for a teacher trying madly to get a lesson together the night before Been there, done that... many, many times!!!


Sarah

Hi Sarah

The English census reference for 1851 to 1901 is File number / Piece / Folio / Page. 1841 has an extra no - File number/piece/book/folio/page
If you look below or to the right of the images you see the RG12/4890 or RG13/767 - the RG (registrar general) file number gives the census year - 12 is 1891 and 13 1901, 14 is 1911. In 1841 and 1851 the reference is HO for Home office. The number following the File number is the piece.
The folio number is not on the image, the page number usually is. I find it a little confusing that the folio is not on the image, thus I try to remember to keep a record of the full reference in text in my family file. I know I have missed some.

In Ancestry, if you look at the details of a person (not the image) you will see the full reference under the family members
e.g. Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 689; Folio 168; Page 2; GSU roll: 6095799 - I have no idea what the GSU roll represents - google tells me it is unique to ancestry.

1911 references are a little beyond me as they are for family sheets rather than enumerators returns. This is an example -
RG14PN12829 RG78PN738 RD273 SD4 ED7 SN180 - Starts with RG14 Piece 12829 then I'm lost (It is Totnes in Devon)

Trish

[SarahND]

Thanks for the explanation, Trish.
As usual, things are more confusing than one thinks!

Regards,
Sarah