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[MaryE]

Hi Dave

A fairly comprehensive trawl through 1837online in the 1860s would tend to suggest that your lot were not born in Lancashire.

There seems to be only one likely Peter, born Sept quarter 1863 in Liverpool, but he can almost certainly be identified in the 1881 census still in Liverpool.

There are four possible Sarahs - Sarah Elisa Finley (June 1863, Fylde), Sarah Ann (Dec 1865 Manchester), Sarah J (Dec 1866 Manchester) and Sarah A (Dec 1866 Ashton Under Lyne). The first one seems unlikely as you don't mention this collection of names for her later. The second can almost certainly be ruled out as she seems to appear in both 1871 and 1881 in Manchester with the wrong parents. I haven't been able to rule out the last two - haven't searched for deaths but can't find them 1871 and 1881) - but both have a middle name.

There seems to be only one possible Andrew, born Sept quarter 1868 in West Derby (near Liverpool). I can't find him anywhere later so he might have died or could possibly be yours and returned to Scotland by 1871.

It's possible all three are the ones found by Sporran on the east coast and that they lived briefly in Lancashire before returning to Scotland. They would have been quite young and might not have remembered being anywhere other than Lancashire.

What specific references have you got to Lancashire other than Andrew's declaration in the 1901 census?

Mary

[MaryE]

Dave

Still pursuing your Lancashire Sloans, I decided to have a look at the historical directories website - www.historicaldirectories.org - to see if there was any sign of William in the 1860's.

There was only one possible directory online - Slater's Directory for Manchester and Salford 1863. It's obviously limited in its coverage but it did throw up a William Sloan. He was listed twice - once under 'Hairdressers and Perfumers' at 188 Gt Jackson St and again under that address as Sloan, William (Hairdresser). Under the same heading of Hairdressers and Perfumers there is a John Sloan at 9 Todd St. What occupation was given on William Sloan's death cert?

It's a bit of a long shot and given the limited coverage of the directory it's definitely not the whole story but it is a William Sloan in the right sort of area at the right sort of date so perhaps should be kept in mind. One thing which was noticeable when searching the BMD's was that Sloan is not a common surname in Eng/Wales.

I had a look to see if there was a directory which would cover the Sloan birth area over South Shields/Tyneside way to have a similar check there but there isn't a directory available for that area yet.

A more promising prospect is the fact that 1837online is putting the 1861 census online and Lancashire is listed as 'coming soon'.

What was the second family expedition down south? I've got quite a few Eng/Welsh resources so let me know if I can help with that one!

Mary

[mesklin]

John

Took the gamble....

...and won!

http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-96

Sarah was born in Wallsend, Tynemouth.

Time to re-write the history books in our family, because I have the certificate in my hands.

It explains a certain fondness for Newcastle Brown Ale - must be genetic!

Thanks everybody. I'm a Geordie!

Dave

[sporran]

Hello Dave,


glad to hear it was successful, but I do not give tips on horses. I believe that another Scotsman on this board was born there, but will he admit it?

I shall be up in the area in early April: do you want any christening dates and the 1861 census looked up?


Regards,

John

[mesklin]

John

If you can fit it in, then any help in that area will be greatly appreciated. I've been poking around in Lancashire too long on this quest.

Now to look up Quay Millington.

Correction. It's Willington. Just looked at map.

Thanks again.

Dave

[sporran]

Hello Dave,


sorry, but it's all negative reporting. In South Shields during the early 1860s, there were 3 churches: Holy Trinity, St. Hilda, and St. Stephen. None had a baptism of Peter Sloan. For Willington Quay and area, all indexes seemed to refer back to Wallsend St. Peter, and there were no Sloan baptisms there. I had a quick look at the index for non-conformists, but there were no records for that area around that time.

I did not have time to look through the 1861 census: I was hoping that a baptism record would narrow the search area.

I shall be in the area again in June, but I am unlikely to have time to look at the census. However, I will be up there in August, and I will have time for fuller searches then.


Regards,

John

[mesklin]

John

Many thanks for the effort you are putting in. I do believe that there will be no baptismal record for Sloans in Wallsend. I have never found any connection of a religious nature in my family - ever! The odd communist, perhaps, and a whole parcel of agnostics. But no religion.

Dave

[DavidWW]

....snipped.............. I believe that another Scotsman on this board was born there, but will he admit it?

Of Scottish parents

Davie

[bryanbid]

Hi all who are posting regarding Sloans in Lancashire.

I am a new member here and as far as I am aware I do not have any scottish relatives, but I did here this was a real friendly place. I am a Lancashire lad born and bred here, I have lots of stuff on english records including the "Vital Records Index" another incompletesource of Data might I add. Anyway to help with your problem re Lancashire and people it is one of the worst areas in the Uk for records ie. not a lot has been transcribed. but if anyone needs help on English stuff I will try my best.

Bryan

[mesklin]

Bryan

Welcome to TalkingScot. This is exactly the way our forum operates. We all pitch in and help. You are going to like it here.

Mesklin.