McLaughlan, McKeown, Where in Antrim? .....

[winslowsmom]

I have gggggrands who ended up in Kilbirnie, but were married 1838 in Country Antrim:

Charles McLaughlan (iron miner) and Rosy McKeown.
His parents, according to his death cert were
Patrick McLaughlan (farm labourer) and Catherine Skullion.

Rosy's father was a Patrick McKeown (ag labourer).

Their daughter, Catherine was married Roman Catholic, so I assume that they were too.

How can I find where in Antrim?

Although they were married in Antrim in 1838, their firstborn was in Kilbirnie in 1841.

Thank you, Cathy

[maggie]

Hello
have you had a look at the following site

http://www.caora.net/
lots of Mckeowns listed for Antrim in the tithe appointments
happy searching regards maggie

[Jack]

Hi Cathy,

Can't help where Charles & Rosey were married in Antrim, but do you have them on the 1851 & 1861 Kilbirnie censuses?

Please just say if you need them - Jack

[winslowsmom]

Hello Jack
I have Charles and Rosy and family, brother, etc on Loading Bank in Kilbirnie for the 1861 census, but don't have the 1851 census for them.
I would love to see it when you get a chance.
Thanks so much
Cathy

[Jack]

Hi Cathy,

Please note all the different spellings, and although you have the 1861s etc, i've just included them for easy comparison.
I thought the Loading Bank Row address was familiar - it's where Marilyn's Dickson / Dixon family were in 1861; and on the same page too!
The 1851 has Charles and all the family born Ireland, with Bea as wife's name - but it does look like your Charles & Rosey.
Could Rosey's name have been Beatrice Rose, but dropped the Beatrice at one point? But it might be just a name error.
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1851 cens 596 (533) Ed 9 p 12 (Kilbirnie)
7 Dregbutts.
Charles McCAUGHLIN, head, marr, 31, miner, b Ireland
Bea McCAUGHLIN, wife, 33, ------ b Ireland
Peggy McCAUGHLIN, daur, 12, cotton factory worker b Ireland
Patrick McCAUGHLIN, son, 9, scholar b Ireland
Catherine McCAUGHLIN, daur, 7, ------ b Ireland
John McCAUGHLIN, son, 4, ------- b Ireland
Isabel McCAUGHLIN, daur, 1, ------ b Ireland
James MORGAN, lodger, 50, -------- b Ireland
William MORGAN, lodger, 13, ------- b Ireland
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also in 1851 at 7 Dregbutts but on page 14
Robert McGLAUCHLAN, head, marr, 25, labourer, b Ireland
Mary McGLAUCHLAN, wife, 23, --------- b Ireland
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and 1851 at 9 Dregbutts on page 18
Charles McGLAUCHLAN, head, u/m 28, miner, b Ireland
Mary McGLAUCHLAN, sister, u/m 25, mill worker, b Ireland
Mrs. McGLAUCHLAN, sister-in-law, marr, 25, ----- b Ireland
Thomas McGLAUCHLAN, nephew, 3, ----- b Kilbirnie, AYR
Mick McGLAUCHLAN, nephew, 2mos, ---- b Kilbirnie, AYR
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1861 cens 596 Ed 3 p 14 (Kilbirnie)
Loading Bank Row.
Charles McGLAUCHLIN, head, marr, 40, ironstone miner, b Ireland
Rosey McGLAUCHLIN, wife, 44, --------- b Ireland
Patrick McGLAUCHLIN, son, u/m 20, ironstone miner, b Kilbirnie, AYR
Catherine McGLAUCHLIN, daur, u/m 17, mill worker, b Kilbirnie, AYR
John McGLAUCHLIN, son, 14, ironstone miner + scholar, b Kilbirnie, AYR
Elisabeth McGLAUCHLIN, daur, 11, scholar, b Kilbirnie, AYR
Margaret McGLAUCHLIN, daur, 9, scholar, b Kilbirnie, AYR
Rosey McGLAUCHLIN, daur, 6, ------- b Kilbirnie, AYR
Robert McGLAUCHLIN, boarder, marr [sic], 30, ironstone miner, b Ireland
Elisabeth McGLAUCHLIN, boarder, 9, scholar, b Kilbirnie, AYR
Mary McGLAUCHLIN, boarder, 5, scholar, b Kilbirnie, AYR
Maggie McGLAUCHLIN, daur, 3, ------- b Kilbirnie, AYR
==
1851 cens 587 (529) Ed 5 p 20 (Dalry)
8 Kerrsland Row.
Susan GRECHAN, head, widow, 80 [sic], annuitant, b Ireland
Andrew GRECHAN, son, u/m 25, ironstone miner, b Ireland
Patrick GRECHAN, son, u/m 19, ironstone miner, b Ireland
Catherine GRECHAN, daur, u/m 17, -------- b Ireland
Timothy McLACHLAN, gr-son, 4, -------- b Old Monkland, LKS
Francis BURNS, lodger, 3, --------- b Barrhead, RFW
Henry McTAMANEY, lodger, u/m 25, ironstone miner, b Ireland
Mary McTAMANEY, widow, 62, annuitant, b Ireland
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1851 cens 652 (633) Ed 48 pp 19/20 (Old Monkland)
Red Row, Coatbridge.
Thomas McLAUGHLIN, head, marr, 21, ironstone miner, b Ireland
Helen McLAUGHLIN, wife, 24, ------ b Ireland
John McLAUGHLIN, son, 2, ------ b Old Monkland, LKS
Catherine McLAUGHLIN, 5wks, - b Old Monkland, LKS
John KIGGINS, visitor, marr, 24, ironstone miner, b Ireland
Bridget KIGGANS, visitor, marr, 24, ------ b Ireland
James KIGGANS, visitor, 1, ------ b Old Monkland, LKS
[father John was KIGGINS with an "I"]
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1861 cens 596 Ed 3 p 15 (Kilbirnie)
Loading Bank Row.
Thomas McCLAUGHLIN, head, marr, 32, ironstone miner, b Ireland
Helen McCLAUGHLIN, wife, 32, -------- b Ireland
Timothy McCLAUGHLIN, son, 13, scholar, b Airdrie, LKS
Cathrine McCLAUGHLIN, daur, 9, scholar, b Airdrie, LKS
John McCLAUGHLIN, son, 11, scholar, b Airdrie, LKS
Susan McCLAUGHLIN, daur, 7, scholar, b Airdrie, LKS
Patrick McCLAUGHLIN, son, 5, -------- b Airdrie, LKS
James McCLAUGHLIN, son, 4mos, ------ b Kilbirnie, AYR
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Jack

[winslowsmom]

Thank you so much Jack.
I am sure that must be our family at 7 Dregbutts on the 1851 census. I will order up a census film from the LDS, which usually has the original census page. I'll bet that Bea could easily be Rose, what with various handwriting and us not being used to it. B and R are so close, and what with letters jamming together, because all of the other names match exactly. What do you think about the 1861 census saying everyone was born in Kilbirnie? Most of the later census with Catherine McLaughlan say she was born in Ireland.

Thank you again

[Andy]

If Rose was 6 in 1861 there is a good chance she was born in 1855. That cert would have locations for the parents births and marriage.

[Jack]

Hi Andy,

You're right - she was.
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ROSSIE MCGLAUCHAN - Female Birth: 02 AUG 1855 Kilbirnie, Ayr, Scotland
Father: CHARLES MCGLAUCHAN
Mother: ROSSIE MCKEAN
--
Jack

[Jack]

Hi Cathy,

I've edited the earlier post to include details for Thomas in 1851 - name actually ended in "IN".

Rosey as BEA could, at a pinch, be REA - his Bs & Rs were quite similar. But not Rose - name only had 3 letters. You'll see what i mean when you look at the film.

Maybe it was just easier to say Kilbirnie for all the weans in 1861 - saves trying to remember where!

Jack

[winslowsmom]

Hello Jack and Andy
Happily I do have that 1855 cert for young Rosey. That is where I saw that her parents, Charles McLaughlan and Rosey McKeown were from County Antrim and married there in 1838.

I am hoping to eventually find out just what parish or village in Antrim.

Hopefully that parish is where their daughter Catherine was born around 1844. (Catherine being the daughter who is my direct descendant) I think this isa good year to look for her, because the 1851 census and her first marriage certificate both agree on that age.

With the various names on the 1851 census, it might help in searching the various Antrim areas for somewhere where most of them were
nearby in the early 1840s.

Thanks again for your continued suggestions and help
Cathy