I'm trying to trace a Charles Conway b abt 1820 in Tyrone Nth'n Ireland ,who was married to a Jane Tagart (or Tigart) they came to Tasmania Australia on the Moolton(or Mooltan) in 30 Oct 1854 with a daughter Mary Ann aged 2.Have found how they got here,but can't trace any Parents of Charles and Jane or what happened to them after about 1865.
John Hills (Australia)
Charles Conway County Tyrone
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LesleyB
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Re: Charles Conway County Tyrone
Hi John Hills
Best wishes
Lesley
..who also has folk from N Ireland born around 1820 and 1830s whose parentage is unknown, and will proabably remain so....
even though I know exactly which Parish, which church & which Townland they were associated with.
Tracing births in Ireland (to find parent names) prior to 1864 can be really hard...you really need to know the precise parish and church they attended. And then find out if records were kept, are available to view or have survived for that church. If your ancestors were protestant there seems to be more chance of there being records than if they were Roman Catholic. If you could establish when and where your couple died, that may be a source of further information, depending on what may have been recorded at the time of death.I'm trying to trace a Charles Conway b abt 1820 in Tyrone Nth'n Ireland ,who was married to a Jane Tagart (or Tigart) they came to Tasmania Australia on the Moolton(or Mooltan) in 30 Oct 1854 with a daughter Mary Ann aged 2.
Best wishes
Lesley
..who also has folk from N Ireland born around 1820 and 1830s whose parentage is unknown, and will proabably remain so....
even though I know exactly which Parish, which church & which Townland they were associated with.-
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Re: Charles Conway County Tyrone
They were Roman Catholic coming from Nth'n Ireland I suppose that's why they left,I may need to take a trip to Tasmania and see what I can find out from there.
John Hills (Sydney Australia)
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Elwyn 1
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Re: Charles Conway County Tyrone
John,
Conway is a very common name in Tyrone and as Lesley says, pre 1864, unless you can narrow the search area to a specific parish or townland, it’s a needle in a haystack.
I am not sure that I would agree with you that your ancestors reason for leaving Tyrone was that they were RC. Huge numbers of people of all denominations were leaving Ireland at that time.
I am sure your ancestors left for the same reasons that 2 million others did. To find work. Ireland has very few natural resources (no oil, coal, iron ore etc) and so did not benefit from the industrial revolution in the 1800s, the way Scotland, England, the US, Canada & Australia did, which created hundreds of thousands of comparatively well-paid new jobs in new industries (coal mining, steel making, ship building etc). So that was a big pull factor. There had been a huge population explosion in Ireland going up from about 3 million people in 1750 to 8 million in 1830. There simply weren’t the jobs for all those people. In much of Ireland the only employment was subsistence farming. And then the straw that broke the camel’s back, along came the famine, numerous times throughout the 1800s. The worst period was when the potato crop failed almost completely 3 years in a row in the late 1840s, and then partially several more years after that. Many farmers were very much one crop dependant, because you could grow more potatoes to the acre than any other crop, but as a consequence they had nothing else to fall back on, and because it was largely a barter economy they mostly had no spare cash to buy food. When the crop failed 3 years in a row, people ended up eating their seed potatoes, leaving them nothing to plant the next spring. It is estimated that during the years 1845 to 1850, around 800,000 people died of starvation or of a famine-related disease such as typhus, dysentery, scurvy or pellagra. A further two million people emigrated. Unlike earlier famines, in which the population recovers quickly from the catastrophe and continues to grow, the after- effects of the Great Irish Famine were such that the population of Ireland, standing at 8.2 million people in 1841, declined to 6.6 million in 1851. Fifty years later, Ireland's population was still showing a decline (down to 4.5 million), even though every other European country was showing a population increase. Ireland’s population did not return to its pre-famine heights until over one hundred years later (in 1964). These figures imply that approximately 8 million people left Ireland between 1801 and 1900 - the equivalent of the entire pre-Famine population. Just as many Protestants left as did RC.
Elwyn
Conway is a very common name in Tyrone and as Lesley says, pre 1864, unless you can narrow the search area to a specific parish or townland, it’s a needle in a haystack.
I am not sure that I would agree with you that your ancestors reason for leaving Tyrone was that they were RC. Huge numbers of people of all denominations were leaving Ireland at that time.
I am sure your ancestors left for the same reasons that 2 million others did. To find work. Ireland has very few natural resources (no oil, coal, iron ore etc) and so did not benefit from the industrial revolution in the 1800s, the way Scotland, England, the US, Canada & Australia did, which created hundreds of thousands of comparatively well-paid new jobs in new industries (coal mining, steel making, ship building etc). So that was a big pull factor. There had been a huge population explosion in Ireland going up from about 3 million people in 1750 to 8 million in 1830. There simply weren’t the jobs for all those people. In much of Ireland the only employment was subsistence farming. And then the straw that broke the camel’s back, along came the famine, numerous times throughout the 1800s. The worst period was when the potato crop failed almost completely 3 years in a row in the late 1840s, and then partially several more years after that. Many farmers were very much one crop dependant, because you could grow more potatoes to the acre than any other crop, but as a consequence they had nothing else to fall back on, and because it was largely a barter economy they mostly had no spare cash to buy food. When the crop failed 3 years in a row, people ended up eating their seed potatoes, leaving them nothing to plant the next spring. It is estimated that during the years 1845 to 1850, around 800,000 people died of starvation or of a famine-related disease such as typhus, dysentery, scurvy or pellagra. A further two million people emigrated. Unlike earlier famines, in which the population recovers quickly from the catastrophe and continues to grow, the after- effects of the Great Irish Famine were such that the population of Ireland, standing at 8.2 million people in 1841, declined to 6.6 million in 1851. Fifty years later, Ireland's population was still showing a decline (down to 4.5 million), even though every other European country was showing a population increase. Ireland’s population did not return to its pre-famine heights until over one hundred years later (in 1964). These figures imply that approximately 8 million people left Ireland between 1801 and 1900 - the equivalent of the entire pre-Famine population. Just as many Protestants left as did RC.
Elwyn
Elwyn