Cost of Birth Certificate.....

[Tracey]

Thank you Andrew

[DavidWW]

[Not if you visit New Register House in Edinburgh and order it in person during your research, when the cost is only £8. (OK you will already have paid £17 for a full day's access, or £10 for half a day.......)

Otherwise the costs are shown at http://www.gro-scotland.gov.uk/famrec/h ... flet2.html - in other words, in the above situation, the "particular search" fee doesn't apply.

David

Much the same with Park Circus in Glasgow, its £7.50 if I remember right, you can even order one from another registrar area it will be posted out to you.

Alan

Alan

I was working from memory, and a quick check on the GROS site via a hotel www connection at £1/min ........ as I was "on the road" !!

David

[Jack]

Hi folks,
The BMDs ordered from Registration Offices are modern day typed copies. These are legal documents.
If you want what the original actually looked like you'd need to get a photocopy from NRH, Park Circus, or online Scotlandspeople.
(ie if they are within the specified years, and are available)
Although they contain the same info i much prefer the original photocopies, even though these aren't legal.
Jack

[AlanMC]

Hi folks,
The BMDs ordered from Registration Offices are modern day typed copies. These are legal documents.
If you want what the original actually looked like you'd need to get a photocopy from NRH, Park Circus, or online Scotlandspeople.
(ie if they are within the specified years, and are available)
Although they contain the same info i much prefer the original photocopies, even though these aren't legal.
Jack

Got to agree with you Jack, I much prefer to have the photocopies as well. That way you get a sample of handwriting of the person /persons you are searching for. You can learn a lot about the person just from that.

The one moan I will give about photocopies is the cost of 50 pence each, ok I know its not a lot but how much does it cost for one sheet of paper photocopied.

By the way anyone notice you can no longer search using the GROS numbers now, when I was at Park Circus on Tuesday I asked what happened to this search aid only to be told its NRH Edinburgh.

Alan

[DavidWW]

Hi folks,
The BMDs ordered from Registration Offices are modern day typed copies. These are legal documents.
If you want what the original actually looked like you'd need to get a photocopy from NRH, Park Circus, or online Scotlandspeople.
(ie if they are within the specified years, and are available)
Although they contain the same info i much prefer the original photocopies, even though these aren't legal.
Jack

Not always !!

If there's an RCE that adds or changes info on the original register entry, or if the handwriting is dodgy in any way, then a legal extract will be typewritten, certainly for the period up to some time in the mid 1900s when the format changed from the 3/page for B&D and 2/page for M registers in landscape to the modern single page portrait layout. For the period up to that format change the register entry is photocopied onto the extract.

David

[Jack]

Thanks David,
I'd just presumed (never wise!) that official extracts were always typed from about the 1960s - and still were today.

The reason being i have 3 official extract MCs got in 1993 when i'd first thought of doing Family History.
(but that idea was shelved for many years because of the cost!)
1860, Paisley
1878, Port Glasgow
1895, Houston & Killellan
all these were typed - i know there are no problems reading them because i've since looked at the original pages at Park Circus.

Could they have given me a legal extract, but as a photocopy on official paper, if i'd asked in 1993?
Or have i got this all wrong... and it's only nowadays you get this because of digital imaging?
Does this mean that all Registrar Offices now photocopy the original, and no longer type them up - unless they have to?

Ta - Jack

[Tracey]

Hi Alan and Jack

I agree with you i would rather have an original looking cert than a modern looking one and even if i got a copy of her birth form Park Circus or wherever and it was a modern one i would still down load it from S/P when it eventually appeared to see the original signature. At 50p a copy i wouldnt complain either as my printers cartridges cost me well over £50 and dont go very far at all

[DavidWW]

Thanks David,
I'd just presumed (never wise!) that official extracts were always typed from about the 1960s - and still were today.

Nae prob. If anyone's interested I can dig out the exact dates. I have a memory that the major layout/format changes were in the early 1970s......

The reason being i have 3 official extract MCs got in 1993 when i'd first thought of doing Family History.
(but that idea was shelved for many years because of the cost!)
1860, Paisley
1878, Port Glasgow
1895, Houston & Killellan
all these were typed - i know there are no problems reading them because i've since looked at the original pages at Park Circus.

Could they have given me a legal extract, but as a photocopy on official paper, if i'd asked in 1993?

I doubt it if the originals are difficult to read. As it's a legal document I imagine that GROS will want to retain the power to decide.....

Or have i got this all wrong... and it's only nowadays you get this because of digital imaging?

Not necessarily, as the microfiches were created in the 1970s/80s and I believe that they are the source for the photocopy style extracts, not the digitised images (which also come from the microfiches ...) ....

Does this mean that all Registrar Offices now photocopy the original, and no longer type them up - unless they have to?

Ta - Jack

Good question - Don't know the answer My original response should have made it clear that I was referring to extracts from GROS in Edinburgh

Whether or not the DIGROS system will eventually allow all (or most?) registrars' office to match the GROS procedure is one point, but another and more relevant is whether all or any local registrars' offices would be prepared to follow such procedures.... it's one thing to do it in Embra where there are a significant number of extracts issued each day, but how about the position in Stornoway for example, or Clachnacuddin

David

[Jack]

Hi David,
Thanks again - i'd only thought it was about the 1960s because my own 1967 MC was typed, and not written.
It is of the newer (portrait) version.

It certainly could be useful if local Registration Offices did have a Digital link-up to NRH.
But one downside might be that they'll only have the local records, and maybe not on fiche?
And a bit of a problem if you want to view the fiche of a hard to read digital image of any BMD from another (even fairly local) area.

So living in the Edinburgh area does have its advantages!

Jack