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angel
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Post by angel » Sun Dec 04, 2005 8:18 pm

Hi

Can anyone help me please I have been searching the Scotsman Archives for an accident relating to Peter Menzies. He worked at a jute mill an I have presumed that is where the accident happened but maybe it didn't.

In the 1871 census that a researcher found for me it says that he is a jute worker blind from and accident but all other censuses say he is a musian.

Can any one tell me how best to look for this accident in the Scotsman Archives as I am at a loss as what to put in, but then maybe it did not reach the papers who knows.

Heather
[b]Spence[/b]~Linlithgow
[b]Downie[/b]~Glasgow
[b]Queen/Quin[/b]~Glagow Ireland
[b]Menzies[/b]~Scotland/England

Malcolm
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Post by Malcolm » Sun Dec 04, 2005 10:08 pm

Hello Angel
I can't help you directly but your appeal caught my eye through the mention of Jute. My own parents came from the land of jute which, you may or may not know, is centred on Dundee. It may help you to use this place as a base from which to begin your search.
http://www.tayvalleyfhs.org.uk/
You might find something to assist you here if you follow their leads.
Hoping this helps
Malcolm Morris

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CatrionaL
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Post by CatrionaL » Sun Dec 04, 2005 11:48 pm

Hello Angel

Searching under Dundee and Jute brought up two Jute Factory fires in Dundee. No mention of injured workers in either.

Catriona

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Post by Malcolm » Mon Dec 05, 2005 1:20 am

Here is another site that is worth exploring The archive collection in the margin might be a good place to start.

http://www.dundee.ac.uk/archives/

MM

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angel
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Post by angel » Mon Dec 05, 2005 2:28 pm

Hello Malcolm and CatrionaL

Thanks for all of your help. I have bookmarked the 2 sites that you gave me Malcolm so that I can look at them more closely. Peter lived a gret part of his live in Edinburgh so he must have travelled from there to Dundee to work.

I am begining to wonder if it was some other kind of accident but trying that tye of search yeilds nothing oh well maybe I'll never find out what the accident was but then that's life....LOL

Heather
[b]Spence[/b]~Linlithgow
[b]Downie[/b]~Glasgow
[b]Queen/Quin[/b]~Glagow Ireland
[b]Menzies[/b]~Scotland/England

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Post by LesleyB » Mon Dec 05, 2005 3:48 pm

Hi Angel
If the accident happened in Dundee before 1871 I have a suspicion it may be unlikley that it would appear in the Scotsman unless it was a large accident involving many people. The Scotsman was/(is) an Edinburgh newspaper and as such, especially back then, seemed to have had quite a local bias where Scottish news was concerned, although it reported all sorts of goings on in London in parliament etc.

If you knew where the accident occured, a newspaper local to the area would seem the best bet. I'd think you might have more luck with a local paper like the Dundee Courier if it happened in Dundee - see http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/ANS/Topics/news.html for a list of local papers.

The Dundee library may be able to help:
http://www.dundeecity.gov.uk/centlib/
according to GENUKI
The Library has an extensive Local Studies Department which contains a wealth of books, newspapers, cuttings and official documents of much value for the genealogist.
For further information about any of the Library services:
Reception, Central Library, The Wellgate, Dundee DD1 1DB.
Telephone 01382 431500 or Fax 01382 431558
e-mail: central.libraryATdundeecity.gov.uk

Best wishes
Lesley

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Post by angel » Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:09 pm

Hello Lesley

Many thaks for the site for Dundee I have bookmarked them and will have a close look at the sites

Heather
[b]Spence[/b]~Linlithgow
[b]Downie[/b]~Glasgow
[b]Queen/Quin[/b]~Glagow Ireland
[b]Menzies[/b]~Scotland/England

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Post by CatrionaL » Mon Dec 05, 2005 5:58 pm

Hello Heather

I hesitated before sending you this site address. After all you were asking about a Jute Mill worker's accident and this site is about musicians. However I got hung up on the fact that, after his accident Peter Menzies is down in the Census as a musician.

The site in question

http://www.nigelgatherer.com/index.html

It appears to be an ongoing site. Last update, 6th November. Gatherer is fascinated by Scottish music and musicians. Amongst other points of interest on his site are mini-biographies of Scottish musicians, some going back to the 19th century. Might he have come across the name Peter Menzies?

Catriona

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