Ironrieves Aberdeenshire
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ronpsmith
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Ironrieves Aberdeenshire
My ancestor Elizabeth Smith nee Shand was living at Ironrieves in the parish of Belhelvie (close to the boundary with Foveran parish) in Aberdeenshire between at least 1861 and her death in 1872. Her son William Smith a cattleman was there in 1861 and her daughter Barbara and grand-daughter Elizabeth were also there at various times. Elizabeth was already a widow in 1861 as her husband Robert Smith (an Ag Lab) had died. They had previously been at nearby Auchloon in Foveran parish. Does anyone have any information about the history of Ironrieves, especially around the period 1860-1870?
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Currie
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Re: Ironrieves Aberdeenshire
Hello Ron,
They must have been a well behaved lot in Ironrieves because they don’t seem to have made it into the newspapers. The New Statistical Account of the 1840s described the residents of the parish of Belhelvie as “intellectual, sober, moral, and religious” http://archive.org/stream/newstatistica ... 8/mode/2up
In the Aberdeen Journal, June 5, 1861, there’s an advertisement that contractors were wanted for building a school and schoolhouse at Ironrieves, Belhelvie. On June 25, 1862, there’s a wanted advert for a Female Teacher for the school. She will have to teach the ordinary branches. There is a comfortable dwelling attached to the school and a small salary.
On August 13, 1862, Miss J. B. Minto advertised that she would open the new Female School at Iron-Rieves, on 18th August. But perhaps she didn’t stay very long because on March 16, 1864, there’s another wanted advert for a Female Teacher for the school, described as a comfortable school and dwelling with a salary of ₤5, besides fees.
After that there are just a few adverts in 1884 to do with the letting of the farm which is described as being of 100 acres.
Ironrieves appears to have been not much more than a farm, and, unless I’m lost, it’s just up this road where the Googlemobile didn’t venture. That’s Ironrieves wood on the right. http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=57 ... 75,,0,7.57
Hope that’s interesting,
Alan
They must have been a well behaved lot in Ironrieves because they don’t seem to have made it into the newspapers. The New Statistical Account of the 1840s described the residents of the parish of Belhelvie as “intellectual, sober, moral, and religious” http://archive.org/stream/newstatistica ... 8/mode/2up
In the Aberdeen Journal, June 5, 1861, there’s an advertisement that contractors were wanted for building a school and schoolhouse at Ironrieves, Belhelvie. On June 25, 1862, there’s a wanted advert for a Female Teacher for the school. She will have to teach the ordinary branches. There is a comfortable dwelling attached to the school and a small salary.
On August 13, 1862, Miss J. B. Minto advertised that she would open the new Female School at Iron-Rieves, on 18th August. But perhaps she didn’t stay very long because on March 16, 1864, there’s another wanted advert for a Female Teacher for the school, described as a comfortable school and dwelling with a salary of ₤5, besides fees.
After that there are just a few adverts in 1884 to do with the letting of the farm which is described as being of 100 acres.
Ironrieves appears to have been not much more than a farm, and, unless I’m lost, it’s just up this road where the Googlemobile didn’t venture. That’s Ironrieves wood on the right. http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=57 ... 75,,0,7.57
Hope that’s interesting,
Alan
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Re: Ironrieves Aberdeenshire
Hi Ron and Alan,Currie wrote:Ironrieves appears to have been not much more than a farm, and, unless I’m lost, it’s just up this road where the Googlemobile didn’t venture. That’s Ironrieves wood on the right. http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=57 ... 75,,0,7.57
Looks like the road that the Googlemobile didn't venture up is probably a private access track to Ironrieves. The map at this link also gives a clue to the teacher's abode in Alan's post.
https://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=3 ... 21825&lm=0
All the best,
AndrewP
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ronpsmith
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Re: Ironrieves Aberdeenshire
Currie and Andrew
Thanks for your replies. Seems like not a lot is recorded about the place. I wonder where the name comes from and if it was renamed at some time? My ancestors appear to have lived at South Cottar House at Ironrieves. William Smith (son of Robert Smith and Elizabeth Smith nee Shand) was a cattleman there with his widowed mother in 1861. Elizabeth was still there with daughter Barbara in 1871 and died there in 1872. From old maps it looks like the road ran further south through Ironrieves in the past (and bent south east towards the wooded area). I've been told there was a North Cottar House on the existing road north of the farm (as now shown Google and modern maps), so I am guessing that South Cottar House was on the that old missing road extension.
Ron
Thanks for your replies. Seems like not a lot is recorded about the place. I wonder where the name comes from and if it was renamed at some time? My ancestors appear to have lived at South Cottar House at Ironrieves. William Smith (son of Robert Smith and Elizabeth Smith nee Shand) was a cattleman there with his widowed mother in 1861. Elizabeth was still there with daughter Barbara in 1871 and died there in 1872. From old maps it looks like the road ran further south through Ironrieves in the past (and bent south east towards the wooded area). I've been told there was a North Cottar House on the existing road north of the farm (as now shown Google and modern maps), so I am guessing that South Cottar House was on the that old missing road extension.
Ron
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Currie
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Re: Ironrieves Aberdeenshire
Hello Ron,
The author of this book was left guessing as to where the name came from.
From “The place-names of Aberdeenshire”, published 1952.
“Ironreives, Belhelvie [irn'rivz]. 1607, Arnruffis PC. 1696, Earnerives PB. One is left guessing how reives, enclosures for animals, came to be made of iron three hundred years ago; arn, alder, may be the explanation.” http://www.google.com.au/webhp?complete ... 80&bih=841
A bit more here: “Ironreives (NJ9221), in early spellings Arnruffis, Earnerives.”
http://aberfeldy.wikidot.com/chapter:6-1
All the best
Alan
The author of this book was left guessing as to where the name came from.
From “The place-names of Aberdeenshire”, published 1952.
“Ironreives, Belhelvie [irn'rivz]. 1607, Arnruffis PC. 1696, Earnerives PB. One is left guessing how reives, enclosures for animals, came to be made of iron three hundred years ago; arn, alder, may be the explanation.” http://www.google.com.au/webhp?complete ... 80&bih=841
A bit more here: “Ironreives (NJ9221), in early spellings Arnruffis, Earnerives.”
http://aberfeldy.wikidot.com/chapter:6-1
All the best
Alan
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ronpsmith
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Re: Ironrieves Aberdeenshire
Thanks Currie.
I also understand the farm was actually owned by someone called Ironside until the early 1970s. I know that's a family name you do see in the area but not sure if this is just a coincidence or there is some connection with the place.
Ron
I also understand the farm was actually owned by someone called Ironside until the early 1970s. I know that's a family name you do see in the area but not sure if this is just a coincidence or there is some connection with the place.
Ron