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iluvu2
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2 or 3 that is the question?

Post by iluvu2 » Sun Dec 16, 2007 9:57 pm

on my grt grandfathers marriage cert John Smith m Margaret McCulloch 1883 Airdrie Lanarkshire his mother seems to have alot of surnames ,she was Isabella Kennedy previously Jones and I think it says then Smith M/S Smith . It also says his father was John Smith also[Ireland] Do you think she was married three times.any help greatly appreciated :?
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Post by AndrewP » Sun Dec 16, 2007 10:03 pm

Here are my suppositions for you.

Isabella Smith (before marriage)
Isabella Jones (marriage 1)
Isabella Kennedy (marriage 2)
Isabella Smith (marriage 3, or returned to single name after divorce)

John Smith or Ireland:
Smith and Ireland were probably the surnames of his mother before and after her marriage, probably after his birth.

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Post by emanday » Sun Dec 16, 2007 10:04 pm

Hi iluvu2,

It seems quite likely that she was. She wouldn't be the first Smith to marry another Smith.

One of my own rellies was a Cameron who married a Cameron from another village.
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Post by iluvu2 » Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:04 am

thanks Andrew yes I think you are right she may have went back to Smith after the 1st marriage [Jones] married John Smith and had my grt grandad maybe hubby no2 died and she went on to marry Kennedy ,I never explained properly they came from Ireland,and the Irish records are a nightmare, talk about a needle in a haystack John Smith ......
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Post by nelmit » Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:10 am

Have you looked for her death on SP or did she not come to Scotland?

There is an Isabella Kennedy/Smith death in Airdrie in 1903 that may be worth a check.

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Post by iluvu2 » Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:58 pm

Annette many thanks for answering me,and im really chuffed to say the isabella ,s death cert from Airdrie is my grt grt granny .Me thinks when she married Kennedy she came over from Ireland,maybe he was Scottish :) thanks again
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Post by iluvu2 » Wed Dec 19, 2007 12:01 am

Annette, meant to say the cert was in a terrible state barely legible
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Post by nelmit » Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:13 am

iluvu2 wrote:Annette many thanks for answering me,and im really chuffed to say the isabella ,s death cert from Airdrie is my grt grt granny .Me thinks when she married Kennedy she came over from Ireland,maybe he was Scottish :) thanks again
Glad it was her. Did it throw any light on her previous husbands?

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Post by iluvu2 » Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:45 pm

Annette the cert was poor I could barely make it out but it is her ok,as the informant was my grt grandad at his usual address in Airdrie,and it stated she was 1st widow then 2nd widow I think, I was disappointed as I couldnt make out the parents names on it :(
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Post by AndrewP » Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:27 am

Hi iluvu2,

Go back to the ScotlandsPeople website and click on contact us and submit a contact form saying that the certificate was illegible. Normally they will e-mail you a fresh scan of that page that should be far more legible.

I took a look at the certificate and I think that first column information is Isabella Kennedy widow of 1st John Smith, general labourer; 2nd John Kennedy, general labourer. The parents could be Tom Smith, handloom weaver, deceased and Susan Smith, ms. Redford, deceased. Hopefully a re-scan from SP can resolve these for sure.

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