Surname Help.....

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Rab
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Surname Help.....

Post by Rab » Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:13 pm

Hi all,

I'd like to ask for your expertise again if I may. I have a marriage entry which I have posted below and I am looking to decipher the bride's mother's maiden name. I have my own idea what it could be but I don't want to stick any names in people's heads as I know how difficult it can be to see anything different therafter.

The entry is not too easy to read so here is what I know. Most of this is backed up from their children's certificates. I also have Oliver's birth certificate so his parent's details are correct. I've not been able to get Jessie's birth certificate yet and I think she, like Oliver, died after 1954.

DATE 9 November 1923
PLACE Milton Parish Church, Glasgow
GROOM Oliver Bruce Fullerton
GROOM's FATHER Alexander Foulis Fullerton
GROOM's MOTHER Margaret Anderson Fullerton ms. Piggott
BRIDE Jessie Livesey Pauline Hamilton
BRIDE's FATHER John Hamilton
BRIDE's MOTHER Margaret Hamilton ms. ?

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DavidWW
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Post by DavidWW » Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:28 pm

Rab

Given the quality of the image, - I've also viewed it directly on SP, - I would only be guessing, - NEILSON, maybe even PAULSON, which might lead me to believe that Jessie's third name could be that as well, or similar.

But, in such a situation, the remedy is simple :!: - submit a contact form to SP indicating your problem in reading this register entry, and ye shall receive within an amazingly short period a much better quality copy direct from GROS, or even comments based on viewing the actual register entry (and you can include in your contact form the fact that an SP User Group member has viewed the image and been unable to decipher it :!: )

David

Rab
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Post by Rab » Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:40 pm

Thanks David. I did not know you could submit those types of problems. I have them quite often so I might as well stick them all in the one mail.

Cheers

Rab

isobelc
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Post by isobelc » Thu Nov 03, 2005 2:46 pm

Hi Rab,

I think it is Nielson.

Regards,
Isobel

DavidWW
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Post by DavidWW » Thu Nov 03, 2005 3:01 pm

Rab wrote:Thanks David. I did not know you could submit those types of problems. I have them quite often so I might as well stick them all in the one mail.

Cheers

Rab
As long as it is demonstrably the case that the quality of the SP image makes it very difficult for you or me to read, then GROS are more than happy to assist via a photocopy from their system, which is most often of sufficiently higher quality to be more easily readable, or, failing that, a transcription based on viewing the original register entry.

The problem for GROS can be that they receive many such queries where the lack of ability to interpret the entry derives from a lack of experience in reading the hand on such register entries, - in other words, I or someone else with substantial experience of the hands involved will not have the slightest problem in reading the entry.

While GROS go to some lengths to be sympathetic to such inexperienced SP members, they know full well that there are, most unfortunately for the rest of us, some folk out there who see it as their right, as soon as they hit the very slightest difficulty in interpreting a register entry to hit the "Submit Contact Form" button :!:

GROS, I'm sure, will always err on the side of a sympathetic response !!

But for all those who might read this post please let me just repeat and amphasize that, as long as it is demonstrably the case that the quality of the SP image makes it very difficult for you or me to read, then GROS are more than happy to assist via a photocopy from their system, which is most often of sufficiently higher quality to be more easily readable, or, failing that, a transcription based on viewing the original register entry.

David

Rab
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Post by Rab » Wed Nov 30, 2005 3:01 pm

Sorry to bring this back but it was just for an update.

Following David's advice I, eventually, contacted SP about the entry last night. Today a kind woman got in touch to reply. In her opinion a rescan of he image should improve the quality of the image and when this is done it will be refelcted on the SP site. In the meantime I was refunded 10 credits and a photocopy of the image is on it's way out in the post.

Thanks for the help and once again I have to compliment SP on their fanastic customer service.

Rab

DavidWW
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Post by DavidWW » Wed Nov 30, 2005 5:45 pm

Rab wrote:Sorry to bring this back but it was just for an update.

Following David's advice I, eventually, contacted SP about the entry last night. Today a kind woman got in touch to reply. In her opinion a rescan of he image should improve the quality of the image and when this is done it will be refelcted on the SP site. In the meantime I was refunded 10 credits and a photocopy of the image is on it's way out in the post.

Thanks for the help and once again I have to compliment SP on their fanastic customer service.

Rab
Great to hear =D>

David

AnnetteR
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Post by AnnetteR » Wed Nov 30, 2005 6:32 pm

Hi Rab

It looks like Watson to me.

Cheers

Annette
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Researching in Fife: Wilson, Ramsay, Cassels/Carswell, Lindsay, Millar, Bowman and many others.
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Rab
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Post by Rab » Fri Dec 16, 2005 6:25 pm

Sorry to haul this back again but it's the last time and for good reason. As I said previously the entry had been rescanned and sent to me. I's also like to add that we were all wrong with our guesses including all my countless guesses too. It would be a good idea to see the difference between the images so I've posted the rescanned image below.

Rab I've had to delete the link to the image posted here, as it was leading to very persistent and intrusive popups, in particular a supposed warning about "harmful" spyware infection and trying to hijack MicroSoft to give a similar warning. Only a full system scan can determine if there is spyware present !!

Please upload the image instead to the TS Gallery

David
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CatrionaL
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Post by CatrionaL » Fri Dec 16, 2005 6:53 pm

Rab

I'm sure you are delighted you contacted SP about the image. Thanks for sharing it with us.The difference between the two images is unbelievable. Now that you have the right names, you'll be able to move ahead once again. That's great. xmas:biggrin:

Catriona